• Primarily0617@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    so biden is currently presiding over and doing nothing to stop two genocides? and you want to reward that with an unconditional vote of support, so that next time democrats are in office, they’ll know that people don’t care?

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      8 months ago

      Reward? No. I want to stop the one who will make it worse.

      And if you can tell me who I should vote for to stop Trump that isn’t Biden, a person that is more likely to get more electoral college votes than Biden will against Trump, please name the person.

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        8 months ago

        biden’s only selling point at the moment is that he isn’t trump, so with 6 months of campaigning and biden’s endorsement you could probably sell any democrat

        me giving you a name now is almost entirely pointless given that you’re just going to turn around and say that because they haven’t already done that campaigning you can’t imagine them being popular

        Reward? No. I want to stop the one who will make it worse.

        do you or do you not acknowledge that by voting biden you’re sending a message to the dnc that their voter base doesn’t care about genocide?

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          8 months ago

          I will answer that question after I am told who I should vote for that will stop Trump from getting into office. Because I haven’t been given a name yet despite asking multiple times.

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            8 months ago

            You’ve literally asked me once, friend, and I explained why me giving you a name wouldn’t make any sense.

            I fully expect that in the hypothetical world where the DNC decides it doesn’t want to lose this election and decides to swap out Biden with somebody else that my gut reaction will be that they’re shit, but that’s because they haven’t done any campaigning yet.

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              8 months ago

              If there’s no one to vote for that has a chance of beating Trump other than Biden, I guess I’ll vote for Biden.

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                I know for the sake of pride you aren’t going to openly acknowledge this, given how pointedly you’re refusing to engage with anything I’m saying, but at least admit it to yourself: voting for Biden is sending a signal that the democrats can allow as much genocide as they want so long as they can convince you the other side will be worse.

                If you think that’s worth the trade-off, fine, but don’t pretend that that isn’t the trade-off you’re making.

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                  The trade-off is stopping Trump from continuing the genocide in the U.S. that he and his Republican friends are already a part of and which my daughter would be a victim of.

                  So yeah, saving my daughter’s life is sure as hell worth the trade-off.

                  And I’m pretty amused that you think it sends that message after the primaries. Because the time to challenge Biden was before the primaries.

                  Did you do anything about that? Did you canvas for any primary rival of Biden’s?

                  Because if I’m sending a signal to the Democrats that “as much genocide as they want” is okay… unless you’ve been canvassing for Dean Phillips or Marianne Willaimson, I think you have been too.

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                    8 months ago

                    If the democrats win this election while running a candidate that’s twiddling his thumbs over multiple genocides, then the next time they’re presiding over one, they’re going to have solid data that tells them that they don’t have to bother themselves about it because their voter base will elect them anyway.

                    It’s really that simple.