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Hezbollah: Attacks IDF soldiers in base and kills only a soldier
Israel: Kills entire family in a home including two children to kill one soldier
Most moral army strikes again.
Their attacks also killed and injured several Israeli civilians, Hezbollah is not a lovely freedom fighting group that is careful to only target military bases.
This article says that they hit one israeli soldier. If a soldier on any side dies I don’t really care as they’ve both signed up for it. Just leave the civilians out of it.
This article yes, but I live here and can tell you that the drone infiltrations and anti-tank missile launches by Hezbollah are happening throughout the day, every single day in the north of Israel. That’s why almost all civilians in the north have relocated to the center, driving up rent prices to unbearable levels for everybody. There are though, thankfully, thousands of households that opened up their homes to shelter and support their fellow citizens from the north and around the Gaza border.
Rocket sirens have calmed down a lot near the Gaza border (probably thanks to the IDF neutralizing more than half of Hamas forces by now), they happen only once every few days and they no longer reach the center of Israel these days. At least for now.
Geez if only Hezbollah gave a direct condition that would stop their attacks.
Something about a Schemocide in Schmaza I think…
they’ve both signed up for it
Fuck no they didn’t. Army service is compulsory in Israel, from age 18 and lasts over 2 years (back when I served it was 3 years for men and 2 years for women, but it has changed in the last decade and I don’t know the amount now)
I don’t know about Lebanon.
You can refuse it like some israeli 18 year olds did.
Conscription is irrelevant as they were active soldiers on a military base. They were not reservists.
“I was just following order” is some shit from 1945 nobody cares.
As for refusing - it’s a fucking explosive topic. Some populations do it more than others. Some populations - Haredim - just don’t serve as a rule, not because of any good argument but because ThEy HavE To sTuDy ThE BIbLe!!! (it’s one of the topics that put us on the verge of civil war last year)
For non-insane people though, refusing military service is akin to refusing to pay taxes. It works sometimes, but good fucking luck, and most people don’t do it.
“they were not reservists” - exactly. Let me clarify this point.
You are forced by law to serve in the military as an active soldier at age 18. Virtually Israeli soldiers ranked Corporal, Sergeant and Staff Sergeant are in this mandatory serving period. This is active duty, not reserve duty, and the “active soldier” you mentioned is very likely to be this (I don’t know how to verify this).
You generally have to follow orders and you don’t get to decide what role you’ll be doing (although there are ways to affect it, I won’t get into it).
There are some who then stay longer, become officers, have a military career, whatever. I’m not discussing those as this bit is similar to voluntary military service in most countries.
The majority of people who finish the mandatory active duty are then released from the army, but depending on their role they remain reservists - they go live the civilian life, and every once in a while they must basically serve for a few days to both pitch in and keep up their own readiness. I’m not familiar with the details of how this works because, lucky me, I was released without reserve duty as my role didn’t have much value for reserve.
And of course, at times of war, mass reservist connections ensue. But active duty from age 18 is still active duty, not reserve.
Hope that clarifies it.
I know all of this of course, but then you either take the jail or demand asylum from israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa2Uc97-ns
The Nazi’s also had conscription surely you don’t think every German went out of free will. Which brings us once again to
“I was just following order” is some shit from 1945 nobody cares.
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If you knew all this why did you say this?
Conscription is irrelevant as they were active soldiers on a military base. They were not reservists.
It is literally conscription.
You do get some jail time if you simply refuse to serve though. Unless you have strong psychological or physical reasons that prevent you from serving. Men and women both need to serve, the Israeli (and worldwide Jewish) population is very small relatively.
Then vote in a government that ends that. Soldiers are acceptable targets, civilians are not.
I did. My vote didn’t do shit - the party I voted for didn’t pass the threshold. For the first time ever, I might add. Their absence might be the very thing that caused the current abysmal government to form. And I participated in the MASSIVE protests last year after that happened.
Israeli warmongers: Hamas and Hezbollah both start with H.
Or maybe they forgot Gaza is in the southwest, not in the north.
Or maybe, just maybe, the Lebanese forgot to condemn Hamas.
If you didn’t need a reminder that this was never about the hostages.
Hostages also start with H
And they killed the hostages thinking they were Palestinian civilians.
They thought they were Hamas terrorists, not Palestinian civilians. Because Hamas often times disguise themselves as civilians in order to attack. Including when conducting stabbing or car ramming attacks within Israel against Israeli civilians.
Yeah those 15,000 children the IDF murdered were all completely indiscernable from adults. Couldn’t have been avoided.
Didn’t you hear, Hamas rides single file to hide their numbers
That’s not what I was talking about and I do not easily dismiss the civilian casualties on either side. I would advise not taking the statistics that Hamas puts out at face value. We can talk about the number of casualties on both sides once the war is over, the dust settles and an accurate count can be made, preferably by an independent reliable source, not Hamas and probably not the IDF. It took Israel months to identify all the victims of October 7 and revised their total death count from about 1400 to 1200. In addition, it is an extremely densely populated region engaged in urban warfare against a terrorist military group (Hamas) that follows no rules whatsoever.
Look everyone, once we’ve finished ethnic cleansing the Palestinian people and expelled almost all of them from their homeland or killed them, then we can talk about it. Maybe we’ll even make a sad movie or a scholarship or something, like the Americans do with the Native Americans. Until then, no one is allowed to criticize us. Because it’s antisemitic, and also every single Palestinian is Hamas and Hamas deserves to die. Therefore…
You are fully allowed to talk about it and criticize us, I was just suggesting not trusting stats from a terror organization. Not all Palestinians are Hamas. Hamas does deserve to die.
Hamas is a reliable source because Hamas is not a terrorist organization.
The militant wing of Hamas uses terrorist tactics. Hamas is the government of the Gaza strip. As is everyone who works for them. But the militant wing is very separate from the governmental wing. This allows the Israels to claim they killed a Hamas member and people thing they’ve killed a militant, when in reality they just murdered a garbage collector, or census taker.
The garbage collector? Hamas.
The doctors that aren’t MSF? Hamas.
The pencil pushing hospital administrator? Hamas.
Finally, since you’re a child-murder denying Israel fanatic, who should we believe? Israel’s numbers? They’re HIGHER! They just claim every child killed is Hamas.
The Gaza Health ministry knows their numbers will always be questioned, so they only release numbers for people proven to be dead.
People buried under rubble from Israels indiscriminate bombing campaign? Not counted.
Wow. I’m out
That argument provides “justification” to kill any civilian.
Your words not mine.
Are you fine with allowing them to set the bar that low though?
No. And look, to be honest I never understood why some people claim that Israel is purposefully targeting civilians. They are not, and the mortality rate of terrorist/civilians is some of the best if not the best in any modern urban war anywhere. Hamas just reports every death as civilian, and men of ages up to 21 as children. Not saying there have been no actual civilians, children and women killed in Gaza, but there is a clear intent to minimize innocent casualties, at least where I’m observing things from.
Also, a few days ago the IDF rescued 2 hostages for the first time, I hope that made international news.
Someone drank a Big Gulp sized cup of Israeli propaganda Kool-Aid.
More like Hamastages.
Don’t forget Hospitals, they very clearly start with the letter Hamas too
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What? Hamas and Hezbollah are both attacking Israel what is your point?
Didn’t Israel start by bombing Lebanon
weeksmonths ago?Edit: months, not weeks: Israel bombed southern Lebanon on October 13.
Do you think they bombed Lebanon out of nowhere? Or was it a response to a certain wave of attacks which displaced the entire northern Israeli population?
Given Israel’s history of warmongering in Lebanon, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was unprovoked.
It was not unprovoked. Hezbollah joined Hamas’s attack from Oct 7
Citation needed.
Nassrallah said several times that they’ve begun doing this in support of Hamas.
And the recent attack by Israel is a response to Hizballah’s attack on Safed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)
It’s also a distraction so that they can continue to oppress Palestinians in the West Bank and in Israel.
How is it a distraction? Everyone is still talking about both things and giving their random uninformed opinions.
This is more and more feeling like they are trying to push the limits of international tensions to start a regional war at least.
Well, if the fighting stops in Gaza because the most moral army gets shamed into stepping back, poor ol’ Bibi is going to have to face that corruption trial. So the logical thing to do is open a new front to hold that off a while longer. Gives them time for Mossad to prime up something elsewhere.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hezbollah, which is thought to have carried out the attack on Israel, has not claimed responsibility.
The two sides have traded regular fire across Israel’s northern border since the 7 October attacks by Hamas.
“Fighter jets began an extensive wave of attacks in Lebanese territory,” the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesman, Daniel Hagari, wrote on X (formerly Twitter) on Wednesday.
Mr Hagari said the IDF would give more detail on its latest air strikes in the coming hours.
Hezbollah - a Shia Muslim organisation - is one of the most heavily-armed, non-state military forces in the world.
It was established in the early 1980s by the region’s most dominant Shia power, Iran, to oppose Israel.
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Nuke Israel - they keep starting shit so end their country
