https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eQz4aQjtY0&feature=youtu.be
Maybe not too surprising on this one. I hear the range on these are not great especially if you drive them spiritedly. And given it’s a first gen product on a new tech, no one really knows what these will be worth 5 - 10 years from now.
The range is fine. People bitch and bitch and bitch and act like they go to the gas station every day.
My 911 gets less than 300 on a tank. And I can’t fill it at home every single night.
The range doesn’t tell the whole story. The Taycan is one of the fastest charging cars available. If you’re road tripping, this becomes far more valuable than range. And if you’re not road tripping, the range will be fine. Used Taycans are a steal right now.
They are good value but if anything goes wrong the repair costs are frighteningly high
There’s very little that can go wrong on an EV though, gasoline cars are more a “death by a thousand cuts” kind-of deal, EVs have 3 main parts- HVAC system, high-voltage battery (and to a lesser degree) motors.
Motors are extremely reliable (except on Teslas, where they are just okay, though Model 3/Y seems to be a lot better than older Model S) and (relatively) cheap to replace. They are made up of essentially just one moving part and are dead simple, so there’s really not much to go wrong if you’ve made them well.
Batteries are getting more and more reliable every year as battery tech and cycle counts improves, you could often only expect 300-500k kilometers from an EV battery pack 10 years ago, now you’re likely to get over a million.
HVAC systems seem to be pretty reliable too, Tesla seems to be the only manufacturer I’ve seen any reasonable amount of replacements for, but reliability there is still pretty okay for them, and for other manufacturers they seem to be very reliable. And they’re still not exactly prohibitively expensive to replace if they do go wrong.
Overall just the fact they have so few moving parts means they are much easier to make reliable, the Hyundai Ioniq EV is easily the most reliable car Hyundai has ever made for example. Also 8-year battery warranties are basically the minimum any manufacturer is offering, so at least that shouldn’t be a worry at all.
Nissan not being able to put a CVT in the Leaf seems to have done wonders for its reliability, almost every single one of them is still on the road, even if Nissan, being the only manufacturer to put a passive battery cooling system in an EV hasn’t done wonders when it comes to battery degradation over time. Don’t think I know any ICE Nissan made in the last 20 years that has been more reliable than that car honestly.
I literally just drove my Taycan 600 miles this weekend and I had to spend more stopping to piss, shit, and eat than I spent charging. My only gripe is that the charging stalls are in Walmart parking lots, which have a whole lot of nothing to do nearby unless you want to walk a half mile to eat McDonald’s. I picked up food, ate in my car while charging, and immediately got fucking hash brown grease all over my alcantara.
You’re exactly correct.
The 800 volt architecture of the vehicle coupled with a high output charger (Electrify America has a bunch) gets you a nearly full charge in 22 minutes.
Not to mention that driving it is an absolute blast, and it’s built very well.
Most EA units dont even work.
The high output one we have in Chattanooga (ooltewah) was always solid for me when I was at the dealership, but that may not be the case now.
I don’t understand why everyone keeps praising the 800V architecture for the charging time when Tesla has been doing 250kw charging for 5+ years now without 800V. Genuine question.
You already know why
They only do it on the 3 and Y, AND they will not actually confirm it. You can ask, but since Muskrat fired the PR dept, you’ll get a hilarious poop emoji as a response - so clever.
Porsche didn’t do it exclusively for charging times - they did it because it uses less copper, hence, less weight, because racecar.
Yeah, only on their highest volume, best selling cars 🤣
your $200k PTS metallic grocery getter sedan is not a racecar dude
Settle down
Porsche drivers aren’t super keen on charging in Walmart parking lots though