• JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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    Not true at all. Your country is just sold to the highest bidder. Don’t pretend you are a democracy. Don’t pretend you are a capitalism society.

    Please admit you are a slave of your corporate masters and that they need you toothless. It’s called a corporatocrazy (sic.).

    Europe has 418 hotsauces (incl from USA and Cuba) and nobody needs to have toothpain (but replacing them with expensive implants may require more money as average person has)

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      Corporations being in control of a nation is the ultimate goal of capitalism. So I think I will call the U.S. a capitalistic society. One which has come very close to reaching that goal.

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        Capitalism is an economic system. Extreme capitalism leads to corporatocracy like the US, which makes it a political system.

        I don’t even think we disagree on anything… You are just confusing words/symantics

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        Nope, not true. Capitalism in its base is just the fact you are free to exchange with others.

        Businesses should not be allowed human rights. And especially not to influence politics (even if through third and such parties like lobbyists and superpacs)

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          That’s not what capitalism is. People have been exchanging things long before the 1600s. Capitalism is about allowing private interests to own a state’s productive capacity for the purposes of profit.

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                The word government isn’t even in that entire article. Maybe quote a specific part instead of idiotically linking a main Wikipedia page…?

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                  Okay, allow me to copy/paste the relevant section, the first sentence.

                  Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

                  Meaning individuals (aka private interests) own and control the means of production with the goal of generating profit, rather than they be publicly controlled, which is to say controlled by the government.

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                    Controlled by the government part is added by you with no source. Typical American basement dwelling commie

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          You’re wrong, and you don’t know you’re wrong.

          If you care at all that you might be wrong, you would read David Graeber’s “Debt: The First 5,000 Years” and learn more about this.

          But you won’t, because this is the Internet.

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            My take away from that book is that we should fight the oligarchy to demand the re establishment of a Jubilee.

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            F u tanky moron. Extremists are always bad Left wing as much as extreme capitalism.

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              They’re right though. Freely trading goods and services is commerce, and an economy based on commerce is a market economy.

              Capitalism is specifically a market economy where the means of production are owned privately by an investor class, who increase their wealth exclusively by “profit”: a discrepancy between the value the workers in a company contribute, and the compensation paid to those workers (Price- Cost [including wages] = Profit).

              There are non-capitalist market economy models. Like market socialism, in which economic production is still generated by private companies in a free market, but those companies are owned by the workers themselves rather than by non-employee shareholders.

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        Capitalism isn’t necessarily EXTREMIST. I can be limited, actually it IS in ALL COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD. however, in some shithole countries like the US of aholes, it’s limited in the wrong ways because of lobbyists and meek population being distracted by bread and games.

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      Speak for yourself. The Netherlands still has seperate dental insurance, and even those don’t cover everything, fixing your teeth can still cost a lot here, and minimum wage people stopped going to the dentist.