I see so much disdain for pickups here on r/cars but figured this would be a good comparison to do as these are consistently the two best selling vehicles year after year.

I’ll get the why out of the way first. I bought both of these because I’ve always liked trucks. I don’t actually need their capability anymore than I needed my C7 with the Z51 package and 3.whatever to 60/over 1G cornering capability or the 392 Hemi in my Charger that averaged worse mpg than both of these. I wanted a comfortable, large vehicle with a massive back seat and a V8. Really no justification other than I wanted it just like all of the other unnecessary vehicles I’ve owned.

These two aren’t a perfect match trim for trim but it’s relatively close. The Silverado was a 2021 LT Trail Boss 6.2L that was completely optioned out minus the sunroof. This truck had a ton of issues that GM wouldn’t acknowledge or fix and I was luckily able to sell it to Carvana for more than I paid four months and 6,500 miles later.

The F150 is a 2023 XLT 302A FX4 with the 5.0 and 3.73 electronic locking rear end.

I’ll discuss powertrains first as I’ve now owned three 6.2 LT powered vehicles and three Coyote powered vehicles. The Chevy had a better programmed transmission. It was butter smooth and never once had a rough shift even when cold. The Ford’s 10 speed is just as good once warm and you’re tipping into the throttle but will sometimes deliver a clunky shift at low speeds especially when cold.

The engine performance surprised me a bit because the difference in torque is much less pronounced here than it was between my two Mustangs and Camaro/Corvette. I credit this to the Ford’s 3.73 rear vs the Chevy’s 3.23 and the Gen 3/4 Coyotes massive power increase over the gen 1 and 2 my Mustangs had. The 6.2 has more low end. It’s noticeable but the 5.0 will easily move this truck around under 2k rpms. It’s also redlines at 6,800 rpms vs the 6.2s 5,500 and sounds so much better. Get on the gas under a bridge and the exhaust echos sound like a quieter Mustang GT. The 6.2 sounds nice too but it’s that generic truck V8 sound and no exhaust note to speak of. Just like in the cars, I think the 6.2 is the “better” engine but I’ll personally pick the Coyote every time due to that hard pull all the way to redline. I averaged 18 mpg with the Silverado and 19 in the F150 both on 93.

My Silverado had the pre refresh interior so I won’t dog on it too much. It was bad. The new design is similar ergonomically and I’ll just flat out give the interior win to the Ford. I’m trying to think of even one area I liked better in the Chevy. The column shifter was nicer than Ford’s. My F150 has the console shifter that will fold flat. I thought it was a gimmick but it came in handy when I needed to fill out paperwork. The lowered door sill and mirrors provide better visibility in the Ford. As well as the lower dash board. Seat comfort is much better. I haven’t had constant CarPlay connectivity issues or nonstop rattles like in the Chevy yet. Both have absolutely massive cabins.

Both of these trucks have their respective trick tailgates optioned. I liked the Silverado’s version better. It folded into more useful configurations and came standard with a very nice bed liner. I needed to return a damaged 7 ft barbell when I had the Silverado and the multi folding tailgate made that a breeze.

Ride and handling is pretty different. The Silverado had a smoother ride but could be bouncy on the highway. The F150 in comparison has a borderline rough ride but feels more planted and stable. The Silverado had tighter steering. By that I mean the steering ratio seems higher in the Ford.

One thing that really frustrates me about Ford is how they gatekeep options behind trim levels. The XLT is the volume trim yet you have to move up to a Lariat to get the auto 4wd and heated steering wheel. Both of which are available in the LT trim Silverado and comparable Ram.

Overall I think the Ford is the much better designed truck. I formed that opinion within 30 seconds of sitting in the driver seat and continue to feel that way every time I drive it. I do think the Silverado is good enough post refresh that it would be the better truck for someone with a different use case than me and should still be in the running.

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    I have friends with both! But they’ve both had issues.

    The Silverado had issues with the 5.3, started some tick that comes from a lifter I think? Pretty common issue, he ended up just trading it in recently for a cummins.

    The F150 has a transmission problem (and it has never towed), it lost a couple gears, right out of warranty. He’s dreading the day that the transmission goes all the way out. It’s fine on the highway because it has all the overdrives, but without 2nd and 4th, it can drive weird around town.

    Both of them have had electrical issues, and built quality problems.

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      10 months ago

      I worked for a ford dealership for a while and I gotta say you really dont want anything post covid from them. Cars would come factory with tons of issues we’d have to have our mechanics fix.

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        I use to work at Ford, guess what I saw nothing but Ford Vehicles with problems :o

        Worked at Honda, saw nothing but Honda vehicles with problems.

        Its almost like working at a particular brand all you see is problems from that brand. Interesting right?

        Working at a private shop, I wouldn’t touch a GM product that wasn’t a Corvette, and even then it would be a hard sell for me on the Vette.

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      Sounds about right. My dad has owned both Ford and GM trucks over the years and he’s had issues with all of them. Both brands have been about equally problematic. This time, he got a 2021 Tundra because he was sick of the issues with Ford and GM trucks. He didn’t even care that Tundra doesn’t ride as nice and gets worse gas mileage. Lol.

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        I had a 2010 Suburban in 2016, only 6 years old and it plagued with issues, the dashboard cracked too… it’s common for them since they’re built with such cheap brittle plastics. I sold it.

        In 2020 I needed to tow again, but I got a 2011 GX460… 9 years old! It was perfect, solid, no issues, I could push on the dashboard and nothing would make a sound. Sold it once I didn’t need it anymore, the new owner is still happy with it.

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      The lifter tick is why I finally traded mine it. It started knocking bad on cold starts. Dealer wouldn’t touch it until the lifters fully collapsed lol. They were telling me there was a 3 month back order on lifters and they don’t do loaner cars.

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        10 months ago

        What was the MSRP difference for the Silverado and F150 in your post?

        GM has had lifter tick on their V8’s at startup with their AFM engines since they came out. I had a lifter collapse on my Camaro. AFM is dumb.

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      10 months ago

      How the hell do the most popular vehicles in the US have QC issues? I would have assumed (I’m not a truck guy) these trucks were bullet proof because of the volume of production = super streamlined build with all the kinks ironed out