What octane is everyone running on their cars? I know the minimum is 87 octane, with 91 recommended and 93 recommended for M cars.

I’ve ran 87, 89, and 93 octane and have felt no performance difference. Also, I don’t hear any knocking on any octane thanks to the knock sensors.

Car is a g20 m340i with a b58.

  • damn_dude7@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    No one is telling you exactly why you should fill up with 91+ instead of 87. I’ll try.

    Your engine runs a high compression ratio and a turbocharger, which requires fuel that doesn’t self ignite under high pressure. Higher the octane level, higher the pressure required for self ignition. So if your car states you need 91 and you use 87, your fuel is igniting before the spark plug even lights up (or midway during the compression stroke). This adds excess heat and stress on components in and around your cylinders.

    “ECUs are smart enough. They adjust” - how does an ECU alter the compression ratio? Compression ratio is a function of bore and width of the cylinder and stroke length of piston. ECU alters other parameters trying to ‘minimize’ the risks. It’s supposed to be a failsafe and not for regular operation. In any case, your engine is running in less than ideal conditions when you fill up with 87.

    Hope this helps.

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      10 months ago

      Idk why you’re getting downvoted you are right.

      For the others, Top Tier is a fuel rating for brands of gas. Top Tier brands include Shell, BP, Exxon, and Costco among others

      • u532n4m3ch3ck50u7@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        It’s a non-government sponsored standard. Top Tier is mostly marketing and branding and you pay to be listed.

        It does mean you know you might be buying something that meets their definition.

        How long before Wawa creates the Toppermost Tier standard that only they follow 🤪

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          10 months ago

          Yeah idk you haven’t convinced me not to go to Costco. It might be just marketing fluff, in which case Costco is still cheaper than any BP or whatever so might as well get it

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    10 months ago

    FYI, on the inside of your fuel door you’ll find AKI 93.

    The engine will muster on lower octane fuel but, it’s a high compression engine that does best higher octane gasolines.

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    10 months ago

    You won’t feel anything because the ECU will realize you’re not running good gas and pull timing to keep you from detonating your motor

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    10 months ago

    Wish I could get 93, highest in California is 91. My tuner said CA gas is shit and recommended a gallon of e85 at fill ups.

    Data logs look good

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    10 months ago

    Please use 93 in your car, your car will love you back. It’s not worth it to save few dollars on each refill.
    Modern engines calibrate themselves if you use lower octance fuel so that they don’t knock, but still use 93 for your car’s best health.

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    10 months ago

    Using anything less than 91 in a BMW is a warcrime. Unless you live in California, because their 91 is closer to 89 anyways.

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    10 months ago

    I wouldn’t put less than 91 on a b58 honestly. You might feel no difference but the car is definitely adjusting parameters in the background. It’s a performance oriented car I don’t know why you wouldn’t want it to run optimally

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    10 months ago

    One of the cannonball runs I watched… I think it was with the AMG… they had a 93 octane tune on the car and when they started to get out west where the best available is 91 the car fucked up. Not sure why there isn’t 93… especially in California where it’s $5 a gallon.

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    10 months ago

    I’m in the UK 🇬🇧 so the octane numbers are different here, but I’m running my M340i LCI XDrive Touring on 99.

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    10 months ago

    Petro Canada has Ultra 94 ever since they took over for Shell a long while back now. So I just continue to use it, but at Petro.