For the record, Toyota and Lexus HQ employee vehicles and on-site engineers and mechanics only change the synthetic oil every 10k miles except for the high performance engines (RCF, LC500, etc.). Follow the manufacturer instructions as you’ll be fine. If you drive in extreme conditions or operate the vehicle in high stress situations (off-roading, racing, etc.), you’ll need to change it more frequently than the manufacturer recommendation.
For what it’s worth, while I agree with you, you should look up Toyotas definition of of extreme conditions. It definitely wasn’t what I thought it was.
For the record, Toyota’s maintenance schedule also assumes that you use OEM oil from the dealer. Most motor oil additives begin breaking down at 5k/6mo. So, while Toyota HQ might have easy access to OEM grade oils, the average American consumer does not. That’s why you change it at 5k/6mo. If you don’t want to be burning oil by 100k, change your oil at 5k, mmkay?
Good point. I’ve only ever serviced my modern cars at the dealer. OEM products should always be used if financially feasible. I only take my non Toy/Lex classic cars to non dealers since GM dealers won’t service a car that’s 15 years old or more. Meanwhile, I took my 1993 Previa to multiple dealers and never batted an eye.
These situations you bring up break down the oil in an expedited manner due to the high heat and increased shearing of the oil from high speeds. Changing it more often is very necessary.
Toyota Master mechanic I follow recommends 5k or 6 months. Also says OEM filters are good but OEM oil is completely unnecessary and that the dealerships don’t even use OEM oil. HQ employee and exec vehicles are a very bad example - they are just sold off not kept for 200,000+ miles.
Sure, but that is designed to get you through the manufacturer’s warranty, you are shit out of luck once you hit 120k or 60k, not sure what their drivetrain warranty is.
You want to take your car to 300k plus, you need to do your oil changes earlier than 10K.
In my country Toyota headquarters actually recommend oil changes every 5k miles, and most dealers offers 200k miles / 10 year engine warranty with the condition that oil changes are done every 5k miles.
Even The Car Care Nut guy Toyota Certified master technician don’t recommend going with 10k miles for longevity purposes.
For the record, Toyota and Lexus HQ employee vehicles and on-site engineers and mechanics only change the synthetic oil every 10k miles except for the high performance engines (RCF, LC500, etc.). Follow the manufacturer instructions as you’ll be fine. If you drive in extreme conditions or operate the vehicle in high stress situations (off-roading, racing, etc.), you’ll need to change it more frequently than the manufacturer recommendation.
Is there any harm in changing it early?
I change mine when the light comes on… is this not what everyone does?
I’ll change mine every 5k miles, thanks.
For what it’s worth, while I agree with you, you should look up Toyotas definition of of extreme conditions. It definitely wasn’t what I thought it was.
For the record, Toyota’s maintenance schedule also assumes that you use OEM oil from the dealer. Most motor oil additives begin breaking down at 5k/6mo. So, while Toyota HQ might have easy access to OEM grade oils, the average American consumer does not. That’s why you change it at 5k/6mo. If you don’t want to be burning oil by 100k, change your oil at 5k, mmkay?
Good point. I’ve only ever serviced my modern cars at the dealer. OEM products should always be used if financially feasible. I only take my non Toy/Lex classic cars to non dealers since GM dealers won’t service a car that’s 15 years old or more. Meanwhile, I took my 1993 Previa to multiple dealers and never batted an eye.
These situations you bring up break down the oil in an expedited manner due to the high heat and increased shearing of the oil from high speeds. Changing it more often is very necessary.
Toyota Master mechanic I follow recommends 5k or 6 months. Also says OEM filters are good but OEM oil is completely unnecessary and that the dealerships don’t even use OEM oil. HQ employee and exec vehicles are a very bad example - they are just sold off not kept for 200,000+ miles.
Sure, but that is designed to get you through the manufacturer’s warranty, you are shit out of luck once you hit 120k or 60k, not sure what their drivetrain warranty is.
You want to take your car to 300k plus, you need to do your oil changes earlier than 10K.
In my country Toyota headquarters actually recommend oil changes every 5k miles, and most dealers offers 200k miles / 10 year engine warranty with the condition that oil changes are done every 5k miles.
Even The Car Care Nut guy Toyota Certified master technician don’t recommend going with 10k miles for longevity purposes.