Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months agoDemocracy in decline worldwide, new report sayswww.politico.euexternal-linkmessage-square115fedilinkarrow-up1586arrow-down110
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minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down34·11 months agoEvery human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up26arrow-down1·11 months ago…which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down20·11 months agoIf we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up12arrow-down1·11 months agoThere are more people than just you in your district
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·11 months agoYes and we should all agree on who is going to represent us. Otherwise the losing party is disenfranchised.
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down1·11 months agoYou’re not going to get unanimous approval for anything when your group size is several thousand people
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down3·11 months agoMaybe the groups should be smaller then
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down1·11 months agoAlso, smaller groups mean more representatives, which means unanimity/consensus as you say would also be unlikely at the national level.
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·11 months agoI don’t believe in nations, either, so that’s not a problem for me
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down1·11 months agoPerhaps. But this is the system we have.
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minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·11 months agoYour shoe has a pretty good knowledge of anarchism. You could learn a thing or two from it
minus-squareStumblinbear@pawb.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down1·11 months agoSo… A form of democracy?
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down17·11 months agoDemocracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants. Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.
minus-squarereddit_sux@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down1·11 months agoThen you don’t do anything. Ok got it, 👍🏾
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down6·11 months agoSo the only way to get anything done is to do it against the will of at least some people? You’ve never been in a group where you agreed on a course of action together?
minus-squarerambaroo@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down1·11 months agoSo nothing gets done then.
minus-squarePelicanen@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7·11 months ago…what do you think democracy is?
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down4·11 months agoYes but also yes
Every human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.
…which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.
If we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative
There are more people than just you in your district
Yes and we should all agree on who is going to represent us. Otherwise the losing party is disenfranchised.
You’re not going to get unanimous approval for anything when your group size is several thousand people
Maybe the groups should be smaller then
Also, smaller groups mean more representatives, which means unanimity/consensus as you say would also be unlikely at the national level.
I don’t believe in nations, either, so that’s not a problem for me
Perhaps. But this is the system we have.
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Your shoe has a pretty good knowledge of anarchism. You could learn a thing or two from it
So… A form of democracy?
Democracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants.
Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.
Then you don’t do anything. Ok got it, 👍🏾
So the only way to get anything done is to do it against the will of at least some people? You’ve never been in a group where you agreed on a course of action together?
So nothing gets done then.
…what do you think democracy is?
Are you…high???
Yes but also yes