I have seen a few of these with similar story lines and realized we are living it right now. They have the best healthcare, the best food, the best everything and most of us are a few dollars from disaster. That scares some of us to death literally from all the stress it causes.
Elysium!
You’re not wrong. And anybody who could afford to stop them is too busy fighting a culture war to organize. Who do you think is stoking animosity? MLKJ wasn’t assassinated for civil rights, it was for the Poor Peoples Campaign. The only thing that could stop them is the unity of all those living paycheck to paycheck, regardless of religion or race.
I feel like a movement is actually happening, but slowly. Look at all these unions forming and people striking all around. It gives me hope, to be honest. The media is fighting it hard and somewhat succeeding, but just to an extent. We will win
That sounds like a pretty terrible dystopian movie that should not be made into real life.
So, please, support the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. Hopefully there will be some good news soon.
Don’t forget the UAW!
Of course. We are all in this together.
Any news on the strikes? Isn’t there three different strikes going on at the same time? Writers, Actors, and CGI Artists I think.
WGA strike is basically over now, SAG-AFTRA strike is still going.
Just get your negligent employer to irradiate you and give you cancer, making you a man with nothing to lose and then go up there and get your cure while toppling the status quo. Easy.
Just give me a cool robotic exoskeleton and I’m sold
Bravo sir.
Bravo
Good sci fi usually isn’t about the future, aliens, etc. It’s about the present, but portrayed in a strange way so as to bypass your existing preconceptions about the situation, so you can look at it with fresh eyes.
It also makes it ‘safe’ to discuss controversial topics, because it’s ‘only scifi’ (or horror/fantasy).
Allows creators and authors to fly under the radar with stuff that could potentially get you arrested, censored, cause controversy or end your career. Prime example, Tarkovski movies like Solaris or Stalker, which are full of religious metaphors, despite being released in the USSR.
It’s okay. There will be no Elysium. They’ll die on this molten rock right here with us if they’re still alive by then.
I think our reality is more like Idiocracy than Elysium.
The people in Idiocracy were wiser because when they found the smartest person they put him in charge pretty much straight away.
Can confirm! Just rewatched Idiocracy.
it won’t be a space station but on earth. the rich been building bunkers in new Zealand. which…has a really fucked up wealth disparity and cost of living crisis before it was cool.
good luck staying safe fuckers
Bunkers ain’t gonna do shit if they can’t grow food
If you want to hoard your supplies during the collapse of civilization, all you did was made yourself a target to the person with a bigger gun.
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Wait, so you mean the absurdist comedy movie made by the guy that made Beavis and Butthead doesn’t go deep into the causes of the issues experienced nor tackles potential solutions?
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I think you have a really good point.
I’m anti-eugenics, I just want good sex education and free birth control and abortion. Educate people, and empower them with personal agency.
I think the genetics/natural-selection part of Idiocracy is wrong and in bad taste - ignorance and stupidity are far more correlated to economic insecurity, poverty, food deserts, underfunded schooling. We can and should fix these.
I suspect most people would ultimately agree with this over eugenics, even if they reference Idiocracy.
I think you missed the point of the movie there, champ.
Also, if you don’t like Carls Jr., then fuck you.
All I know is the second the very second that we are sure they’re starting to build the cloud cities, we need to start murdering people. You can’t let him finish the cloud cities. Cannot happen. The second construction starts we start cutting off heads. That’s our only chance.
Stopping things now would be easier than the future. In the future they’ll perfect the killer dog robots etc. and things will get harder.
Mass surveillance is more powerful than killer dog robots and they already have it.The idea of solving our problems by mass murdering rich people was always stupid, but it’s already too late for that anyway.
I am worried about the robot dogs. But Dave Anthony from the dollop brought up a great point. Someone figures out to hack the robot dogs, turn them on their masters, that would be pretty fucking awesome.
If that was a realistic scenario we would have already seen it with insurgents being slaughtered with drones and missiles turning the tables. How are you getting your stockpile of zero day exploits for military hardware? It’s pure fantasy.
Military drones HAVE been hacked.
Literally anything can be hacked if you have the time and resources.
Sounds interesting, can you link a source? Who was doing the hacking? Whose drone? what was the exploit and how severe was it?
Still, as a broad strategy it’s absurd. It isn’t true that literally anything can be hacked. A correctly encrypted message? You’re never decoding it, ever, with any amount of time or resources. The impression that everything is vulnerable comes from how much of our technology was built with a massive attack surface and no concern for security, it doesn’t mean there’s no need to worry about murderbots enforcing the will of a totalitarian state because you can always just hack them. The task of building them to keep that from happening is something they can put a lot of thought into and largely succeed at.
And again, it’s pointless, because mass surveillance is already more powerful. You want to hack something, why not turn the NSA backdoors to your own purposes? It’s not realistic.
We should start cutting off heads right now tbh
Also: guns are bad, ban them all, only the police and military should own them…
Am I right???
Ah nice, the “everyone who isn’t a conservative is on the left” tactic. It lets you compress 80% of all ideologies into “the left,” which means you can accuse everyone in “the left” of the stupid shit tankies and liberals believe at the same time!
The ends do not justify the means
Oh no, they are not means. They are retribution.
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Kill now
They’re not building a cloud city though. They are trying to get away with rockets and space ships.
You mean something like NEOM The Line in Saudi Arabia?
Nah, that’s just the stupid ideas from stupid people that the actual arcology architects are saying “Let them cook!” about. It will be a case study when the real Elysiums start getting built.
The line . They are already building arcologies.
Same as it ever was.
There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Same as it ever was.
“Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration,” == Mike Pondsmith (creator of the Cyberpunk TTRPG)
It is almost like Elysium was a metaphor for something
That’s unpossible
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Battle Angel Alita is exactly what I was thinking, it’s also a great movie it deserves a sequel!
People working 40 hours to make 10 things. Technology improves so that one person can make 20 things in 40 hours. People now get paid twice as much? People now only work 20 hours? Nope! Half as many people now work at the same pay. The rest have to go find something else to do.
What’s your counterargument when I mention that technology creates jobs and specialty positions? Especially for autistic people.
It surprises me how many people dont realize that most rich people are rich because of poor people.
Stop change your phone each year, stop buying brand clothes, stop going to movie and music concerts. Start buying clothes by your local people, support new artists.
I feel like we’re actually the prequel to WALL-E
Have you read/watched Alita: Battle Angel? That’s the situation there.
This is one of them. yes.
You should check out the movie Elysium.
I knew this reminded me of a movie, just couldn’t remember the name. Thanks.
If anything they’ll start tunneling under the Earth to escape the brutal conditions they created on the surface.
How long until they farm us and eat us?
Ah, who am I kidding? Morlocks and Eloi would never happen. They wouldn’t give us free food.
I think you have that analogy backwards. The point was that the industrial proletariat stayed underground while the bourgeois regressed into the eloi bc they had built the overworked utopia and had no need to do anything. This is the literal way the rich.
They’re safer going to mars or Venus. Once they are in their bunkers, there’s nothing to stop a whole lot of us from sealing the air intakes with concrete.
Well on the plus side cardboard drones laden with explosives are cheaper than ever. /s
That /s is doin some heavy lifting
It wouldn’t fly without the lift.