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      Everyone is well aware of the Azov brigade. They are at most, 2200 soldiers, and do not represent Ukraine on the whole.

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        and do not represent Ukraine on the whole.

        74% of Ukrainians view the leader of the WW2 Ukrainian fascists (the OUN) Stepan Bandera favourably. And 81% view the OUN positively.

        • The support for the recognition of the OUN-UPA as the participants of the struggle for the national independence of Ukraine has significantly increased: 81% support it, and only 10% are against. This support has increased 4 times since 2010, and doubled since 2015.

        • Bohdan Khmelnytsky and Mykhailo Hrushevsky are Ukrainian historical figures who are unequivocally positively perceived by Ukrainian society (by more than 90% of the respondents). Over the recent years, there has been a positive trend in the attitude towards Ukrainian historical figures, around which heated debates were going on in Ukrainian society decades ago. In particular, the attitudes that gradually improved are the ones towards Ivan Mazepa (44% in 2012 and 76% in 2022), Simon Petliura (26% in 2012 and 49% in 2022) and Stepan Bandera (22% in 2012 and 74% in 2022). It is important that the positive attitude towards the ideologue of Ukrainian nationalism prevails today in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, and among those who speak only Russian in everyday life.

        Source: One of the largest Ukrainian polling institutes

        The OUN carried out pogroms, mass executions of jews and were regarded by even the nazi SS as disgustingly brutal.

        https://www.dw.com/en/stepan-bandera-ukrainian-hero-or-nazi-collaborator/a-61842720

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        There are many pictures of non-Azov combatants with Nazi symbols.

        But at least you acknowledge Azov are nazis, that’s a step up from the rest.

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        They are at most, 2200 soldiers

        It’s weird how they’re on every front of ukraine, in front of the cameras everywhere, and also in western ukraine simultaneously. Amazing how so few people can be everywhere at once and always in front of the cameras instead of literally anyone that isn’t a nazi.

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        The following countries were invaded by Nazis:

        Austria
        Belgium
        Czechoslovakia (modern Czech Republic and Slovakia)
        Denmark
        Estonia
        France
        Greece
        Guernsey (U.K. Channel Island)
        Hungary
        Italy
        Jersey (U.K. Channel Island)
        Latvia
        Lithuania
        Luxembourg
        Monaco
        Netherlands
        Norway
        Poland
        Russia (partial occupation)
        San Marino
        Ukraine
        Yugoslavia (modern Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Serbia)
        
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              Pretty sure they aren’t, or Azov would be the ones doing the invading. You seem to not care that a sovereign country was invaded by a larger force.

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                You’re discussing with someone that is part of the botnet mentioned in the article. Just look at their history. Just report as off-topic and move on. No point talking to propaganda mouthpiece.

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                Dude is a fucking moron. The more we all report his comments and block him, the better Lemmy will be.

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                  Do you think Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was justified because of Azov? Does that justify all the civilians being killed? Are they all complicit? Is the only way to solve the problem annexing the country to Russia? Is the fact that Russia also has Neo Nazis in their ranks not relevant?

    • Azov is clearing their dark past. It’s not fully Nazi anymore. Ukraine needs to clear remaining Nazi symbols within the government to improve the international image. The real enemy of Russians is the Kremlin, not Ukraine.