I am loyal to no company. They simply made the more fitting product for me: better Linux drivers and more VRAM.
I always heavily roll my eyes when people on Reddit, or whatever, are like “I [finally] joined team Red”. Like bro, the trillion dollar company isn’t a damn team, they don’t give a fuck about you.
I wanted to get a thread ripper like my cat. Tech companies, all of them suck ass; tech in general. It just stopped being fun at a certain point and became a nuisance.
So they’re bringing back Ruby as a mascot and focusing on the bang for buck proposition then? Right?
AMD still hasy loyalty, unfortunately, due to having the least dogshit Linux drivers.
As long as you don’t have the latest hardware…
And their stuff tends to get fixed eventually. But then, so does nVidia’s. On average, everything pretty much works out of the box nowadays.
TBH intel has that loyalty too
LOL, loyalty.
I was completely decided to switch to AMD, but now I might go Intel…
In gonna fab my own silicone. I’m gonna shine a strobe light through a magnifying glass and drip some liquid in front of it and have it all reflect on some sand I throw on a mirror.
I saw a video on how ASML does it and instantly knew I could do it better. I’m gonna have Bixby help me vibe code this. If anyone wants in on my industry shattering company before I open for 2.6 trillion inbox me.
If you don’t know the difference between silicone and silicon I don’t think you’ll get far.
Hello I think 2.6 trillion is too little for your visionary idea. I offer you 10 trillion at a valuation of 1 quadrillion. That’s right, I only want 1% of your company in exchange for 10 trillion dollars, because I see no way this could go tits up.
You had me at tits. Let’s do this.
This literally cant go tits up. Guh
Sorry, I lost you at Bixby. You’re gonna just end up with a pile of sand with cat poop in it if you use Bixby.
The fact that you were fine with everything up until that says a lot
You’re saying my idea spans MORE THAN ONE INDUSTRY???
Bullish on cat poo futures now.
I might go for an abacus
Im really bummed that intel is the only still viable choice, hoping that they will keep surprising me but i do have doubts…
I hope they keep working on their GPUs its not an easy market but a VERY welcome one to have competition in.
The reasons I got an AMD GPU for my gaming machine:
- much better support for Linux gaming
That’s it. That’s the list.
Neither Nvidia nor AMD (nor also-ran Intel) have come out with meaningfully novel hardware approaches in a long fucking time. It’s all horizontal scaling on the die (plus “let’s add more memory”) combined with incremental efficiency improvements in die layouts and chip lithography process / feature size.
This is why monopolies are bad. They have a vested interest in acquiring and/or killing any company - indeed, any innovation - that has even a slight potential to disrupt their market dominance.
meaningfully novel hardware approaches
This isn’t really possible anymore (at least unaided by LLM). In the era of fixed function pipelines, it was possible to do something new under the hood.
The current standards of Vulkan and DirectX have exposed a lot of inner workings to extract performance which makes it hard to make a large shift. While this makes it easy to use the HW, it also makes it hard for the devs to have a single algorithm for diff HWs, ie, each new feature will need in investment by them.
For any novel functionality, devs will not like to work on features only on a small set of HW, unless they are aided by HW vendors. This creates a chicken egg situation: new features don’t get prioritized up by devs which makes it hard to market the features which makes it a small market which makes it likely not to be a priority by devs.
In this era where code is cheap, perhaps we’ll see more fast moving devs and HW both
Your info is out of date. Nvidia drivers on Linux are trivial to install these days. They provide a deb repo (and others) with both the proprietary and open source drivers. Add, install, done.
“Done”, until the complexity of being an out of tree kernel driver causes yet another issue… suspend has been broken for months on 615+ series
It has? My laptop and desktop haven’t had any problems with it. They’ve been suspending and resuming just fine.
I did have one problem where on my desktop, the latest version caused everything to go really slowly, but downgrading fixed it. But that’s part of using the latest drivers, instead of a stable version. You can get the same problems using the latest version of any in-tree driver, or the kernel itself.
desktop haven’t had any problems
did have one problem where on my desktop
Nonetheless, having fixable problems are still problems that will be a hard barrier for prospective users to adopt.
I found the experience bad when i tried bazzite on a spare drive to test it out on my nvidia desktop. NVIDIA legacy gpus that stopped getting updates and included in distros also a pain when it came to laptops for me with bugs coming out of sleep.
Meanwhile AMD and Intel laptops been trouble free throughout the years, so I’ve avoided getting NVIDIA GPU laptops.
I really like my 7800xt and 5800x3D, they’re good enough for what I need. I do not like AMD as a business, or frankly, any of the alternatives.
If/When my parts die, I really don’t know what I’ll do. Even if I didn’t hate what these companies stand for, I couldn’t afford the insanely inflated prices of their products right now. I might just be priced out of the hobby.
If/When that time comes, buy used if possible, avoid putting more money in their wallets
Go intel. Seriously, their mid range CPUs are becoming solid budget alternative.
I expressed this earlier, but graphics was the original priority of AMD/Nvidia.
Not just gaming.
Workstation work and other niches made up a serious sale of shares. And AMD/Nvidia have always invested a ton exploring those niches.
Hence I mean to imply:
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…Don’t make gaming so self-important, at least not more than it was.
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But also, these corporations were not “loyal to gamers” even before the AI bubble. They had fingers in the pies, and the press documented their many exploits against gamers.
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i’m loyal to my radeon that is already in my system.
Make good GPUs, sell them at reasonable prices. Call me if you need any further advice.
I’d also like if they weren’t actively complicit in genocide. that would be cool.
In what way are they complicit in genocide?
amd: best we can do is nvidia -50usd
The 9070 XT was like $300 cheaper than the 5070 Ti for a pretty long time
Unfortunately, the 5070 Ti also outperformed it on a lot of benchmarks.
It really sucks that AMD stopped trying to compete with nVidia on high end graphics cards. Instead the best current generation AMD cards are basically equivalent to their top end from their previous generation, and are significantly worse than the best of nVidia’s current generation.
Not recently. AMD overtook them with driver improvements. See hardware unboxed’s revisit videos.
Nice Gamer’s Nexus reference
Companies: I’ll take your entire stock! And I’ll pay more than you’re asking!
Nvidia has shat the bed, now AMD has a chance to publicly say something like:
While our primary focus at the moment is data centers, we remain commited to consumers with a special focus on gaming, this is why we are very happy to announce a new consumer division inside AMD! They remain commited to providing cost effective consumer and gaming CPUs and GPUs, and will keep developing Ryzen and Radeon products.
AMD never misses a chance to miss a chance.
Then again, when the competition isn’t your cousin anymore maybe you stop going easy on them.
They are also hoping to kill the consumer market, it’s too much effort and can’t be manipulated as easily by taking a b2b customer CEO out to lunch on your yacht.
Speak for yourself. I’d be down for a nice lunch and a yacht trip. Maybe even some seduction! I wanted to buy a new gaming PC for a few years now anyway.
Tell them you want like a thousand threadrippers, but then excuse yourself to the bathroom, say you was allergic to something in the food, and that it led you to believe you would start with a single consumer-grade card.
And a threadripper. And I see it more like the sample than an actual purchase. So of course it’s free.
It’s probably easier in b2b because you can either show Max performance or Max performance per watt to close the business. For b2c, you need marketing and more downstream collaboration for products.
Absolutely, it’s a whole production to be competitive in b2c. On the other hand, I think doing well in B2C has downstream benefits for business hardware sales (ASSUMING the market is not captured via backroom deals and the opinion of normal humans is a factor in sales).
Sigh, you are probably right.
Though good PR is valuable.
They will just follow what Nvidia does even now.
Wonder who Lisa Su will fuck to be like big boi Huang
Probably someone with the last name of Huang. Possibly Su.
You think they give a fuck about your pennies?
Good PR is valuable.
Ikr? But it’s more valuable to create artificial scarcity. Them saying we used to be the good guys is like the Republicans bragging about slavery.
Nice. Impressive. Let’s see Lisa Su’s affairs.
she is the cousin of JENSEN huang, almost if they are the same person.
has she been alone with Huang Jenson?
They look suspiciously alike. And I for one have never seen them in the same room together. They might be the same person.
SWEET HOOOME ALABAMAA
Okay it’s been a while since I was in the hardware game but are not Radeons made by ATI and not AMD?
AMD bought ATI in 2006
Quite a while…
Yeah, old as dirt. Last time I built my own PC it was with a GeForce 4 GPU and Intel Pentium 4. The 1 GHz barrier was just broken.
ATI got bought out by AMD a long time ago.
