• gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 minutes ago

    Professional TV host, Screenwriter, Book Writer and Comedian who happens to do Poker as a side thing but it’s not her main thing, btw

    Also she’s married now, it’s Victoria Coren-Mitchell

  • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    A friend of mine is afraid of flying. He asked me once why I’m not afraid. I told him that every time I board a plane I am accepting the fact that it is possible I might crash and die. He was horrified, but I brought up that driving 80 mph on the highway is the same trade-off, and the difference is just that one allows the illusion of control.

    He’s still afraid of flying, but now he’s afraid of driving, too

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      Respect to both you and your friend for being logically consistent just at different risk thresholds.

      However, I will add that it’s not certain whether the risk level of driving is equal for good or bad drivers. It’s not exactly an illusion of control. You really do have more control. If it were somehow possible to reliably separate people who died in a car into groups of people that were driving responsibly versus not driving responsibly, I don’t know if that would look as dangerous as an airplane or not… But it seems fair to estimate that it wouldn’t be.

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        Airplanes are so much safer than cars, it’s not even close. Cars are certainly more dangerous regardless of the driver, even if the safest drivers had 10x fewer deaths than average. (which is probably unrealistic, because even if you drive perfectly at 25mph, you can still be killed by some idiot going 100)

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          I used to think that, too. But lately, I’ve started to consider that even more people are even worse drivers than I thought. And I think that really changes things.

          Also, that common airplane statistic about deaths is usually reported in terms of passenger miles, which I think is a little misleading since airplanes intrinsically travel many more miles. It would be more meaningful to measure deaths per trip or better yet deaths per passenger hour rather than miles. However, I did find some lawyer websites saying that the lifetime odds of dying in a plane crash are around 1 in 800,000,000 versus 1 in 95 for cars.

          Now I know it seems deranged on the face of it, but hear me out.

          For driving to be as safe as flying, we would need someone to be about 8500 times less likely to die over the course of their life driving. Most people drive 5 days a week, for about 50 years, so 13000 days driving. So:

          The odds of surviving a day of safe driving= S

          Odds of surviving a day of dangerous driving= D

          8500=S^13000 / D^13000 = (S/D)^13000

          S/D = 8500^(1/13000) = 1.0007

          So if driving safer on day made you even 0.07% more likely to survive that day, then that gives us that 8500x increase over a lifetime.

          Now…I know this is based on that 1/95 which ALREADY includes the safe drivers. So the legitimacy of this estimate depends on how many drivers you think are safe. This is why my estimate of that ratio caused me to change my mind. I feel like only around 15% of people drive at that level of safety. So, of course, unbalanced means that driving is more dangerous because you have an 85% chance of being one of the people for whom it is more dangerous. But I still think there’s something to be said for the minority of truly cautious and defensive drivers.

          Acknowledging other failure points here, most airplane deaths are in private aviation, so that may make the bar harder to clear again. But I think the whole 13000 days estimate demonstrates how even tiny improvements there can easily account for large changes, too.

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          42 minutes ago

          Aviation is safe because every accident gets thoroughly investigated and precipates changes to equipment and/or procedures to lessen the risk of it happening again. After decades of this, we’ve ironed out most of the common problems.

          Meanwhile, car accidents are met with a shrug. We continue to build bad traffic patterns, rely on outdated ‘common sense’ speed enforcement, fail to enforce real licensing standards, loose body shape regulations etc. etc. Basically the only thing we DO do for cars - making them safer in the event of a crash is one thing we absolutely do not do for airplanes.

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          Transport safety is measured in macro scale by how many deaths/injuries/incidents/etc. per person-km travelled. For example, if there’s 100 people on a plane that travels 1000km, then 100 people travelled 1000km, so that one flight is 100,000 person-kilometers. If one person drives a car 1000km, then that’s just 1000 person-km.

          Planes are in the range 0.07 incidents per billion person-km. Cars are 3.7 per billion. Motorcycles are over 100.

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        The majority of people involved in automobile collisions are not at fault. Yes, “good” drivers (who still make mistakes on account of fragile carbon bodies) have less risk, but we’re talking a fraction of a fraction here.

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    4 hours ago

    I know she’s one of the greats at it and all, but as a big fan of UK comedy and a knower of the existence of game shows, I’d staunchly refute the suggestion that “professional poker player” is her main claim to fame except in professional poker fandom 😄

    Either way, she’s probably the smartest person on the comedy panel show circuit and I’m including Brian Cox when I say that 😄

    PS: I also ADORE her hilarious husband, comedy pedantry world champion David Mitchell 😁

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      3 hours ago

      I’d like to see her in Last One Laughing. She’s got such a different approach to comedy than her husband, and I bet she’d be killer at it.

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      Smart can mean a lot of very different things, and on TV it’s a bit easier to “be smart” … eg on Taskmaster (random tasks with wide open thinking) she came across as smart once (I’m not saying she isn’t smart, I have about the same opinion about her, but having read a lot of things & be a bit ‘quick’ is just one aspect of smart is all I’m trying to say).

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        54 minutes ago

        Taskmaster is kinda designed to break smart people and get them to do dumb/silly things.

        She was wonderful on Taskmaster and I never thought less of her intelligence, that’s just what happens to people on the show.