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The United States is a failed nation and according to its own libertarian principles, should be cut off from stronger nations and allowed to die naturally.
Too early to tell, like the fucking post WWII Nazis, the Orange MAGA Turds continue to lurk around out there and they can still inflict a lot of damage by simply opening their f’n mouths.
This article is almost a year old, but it’s still very relevant:
We will never fucking trust you again
The therapist analogy is a good one. Elsewhere I saw someone talking about your ex being a week sober. Same idea. This is going to take way more than one election to set right.
As an American, I don’t feel right asking for forgiveness just yet. We’ve won a major battle but I worry people will take the midterm victory as a conclusion to the MAGA era and disengage, allowing it to take hold again. We’ve got a lot more work to do before we earn any sense of redemption.
Yup. We can’t repeat the arrogant mistakes of James Carville.
As a sikh seeing canada praise is so funny to me because all I see are racist comments from Canadians going “poopjeet” all day on social media
Also every platforms bans sht, you can’t even make a comment on tiktok saying just “jew” without autoremoval, but nothing to stop indian racism, terms like poopjeet which would never be anyones name can just be spammed all day.
I’m sorry, but we’ve been the crazy ex for minimum two decades. One could argue further back, but I set the start of our public decline at W. Before that, whatever issues we had internally, we at least still looked like we could walk and chew gum at the same time. Go team, we’re fucking failures.
Before W it was Reagan, before Reagan it was Nixon, before Nixon it was the Business Plot, before the Business Plot it was the Pinkertons, before the Pinkertons it was the literal cessation and subsequen war over slavery, before the Civil War it was the 3/5th Compromise, before that it was the first slaves brought to the Americas, before that it was Columbus being so monsteously awful by early 1500s standards that he was stripped of all of his titles by the spanish monarchy. We’ve always had crazy fucking racism embedded in the bones of our culture.
We don’t deserve the forgiveness of the geopolotical community until we hold the people in power accountable, if ever.
You literally forgot the war of 1812.
As a Canadian, nah. America’s basically manic/unstable. You voted in Biden after the first Trump shitshow, and then went back to Trump. There’s absolutely no guarantee that America won’t just elect Donald Trump Junior to be dictator in a future election cycle.
Even more, many dems are quietly supporting the general moves of the government, in regards to tariffs etc. They just wanted the verbiage to be a bit nicer, as America went about fucking over their allies.
Our leaders will likely bend over at some point, because that’s what politicians seem to do. But for the rest of us, I hope we continue avoiding America, and continue pushing for separating our economies / cultures / critical industries. Only way I’d be enticed to consider moving closer to how ties were before, would be if we see America do what a “Leader” of the “Free world” should do: allow your war criminals to be tried in the international criminal court for their crimes against humanity etc.
Don’t impeach. Send Hegseth to the Hague, then we’ll talk.
Hi neighbor! The manic political temperament here is exhausting!
About the tariffs…It is an oversimplification to say that “Dems support the tariffs”. It is incredibly more complex than that and deserves more context. August 2026 was the *first *time Dems voted bipartisan for a “broad” tariff, however it was still narrow in scope. It was packaged as a national defense and geopolitical foreign policy bill.
The sanctions focused on penalizing Russia and Iran, which will permit tariffs to be imposed on Russia’s top 5 purchasers of oil and gas. Yes it does affect other countries, however It has carved out provisions for European allies. The waiver that gives Trump the authority to not impose sanctions on Russia will be removed. This will be Wyden’s second task when he is re-appointed to chair of the Senate Finance Committee. Removing that waiver was the intention Congress voted for to jam up Russia’s financial war capabilities. This will also give Congress back its constitutional power to manage international commerce and national security.
The same month, August 2026, Trump unilaterally enacted the 50% tariffs on Canada. Sorey about that! It was an executive decision under a tariff act from the 1930’s. Democrats in both the House and Senate crafted fast tracked legislation to overturn it. Dems were able to pull 10 R’s to oppose it, but neither passed on razor thin margins. There was 1 DINO that voted in support. He is Republican, has a history of being actively involved in Republican politics, votes in line with R’s and did not seek reelection.
Dems platformed and now have the legislative power to roll back the broad sweeping indiscriminate tariffs. House Dem Leader Hakeem Jeffries (presumed Speaker of the House) has coordinated “First 100 Hours” Legislative Blitz and Congress plans to prioritize Canada. 🇨🇦 Keep an eye out for the BAD DEAL Act in a few months. It intends to repeal the tariffs on Canadian goods and force the Treasury Dept to refund the millions collected by it. This is Wyden’s first priority.
It’s worth mentioning, there are multiple billion dollar refunds actively being litigated in the federal judicial system. Courts are ruling in favor of the refunds and have successfully returned $100 billion and estimated to be $170b but more may come down the pipeline, that’s just what has been settled and active now. It is the largest trade tariff related refund in US history.
I was just reading about all this stuff and your comment caught my eye so, yeah, context. Far from functional but we are trying to right this ship. Carry on with any & all contempt, we have earned it.
O, Canada. Please hold, your call is important to us!
Send Hegseth to the Hague, then we’ll talk.
The US would have to join the ICC first. That’s one massive stain on the US in itself.
There’s an international criminal court that 125 nations are a party to, but the US decides “nah” and so Americans can’t be tried there and effectively have immunity for any international crimes they commit.
Heghserh to the Hague would be one required step amongst thousands. At this point the USA will have to do much, MUCH more to become an acceptable neighbor
Amongst those steps
Official apologies for wanting to take over Canada, including the insults, threats, and acts of subterfuge (hello Alberta)
Sending both heghseth and trump to the Hague
Confiscatng all the money and assets the trump family gathered and stole during trumps presidency
A full reversal of prettt much every law trump added to the books during his tenancy
A reversal of all presidential pardons, put all those criminals back in jail
Official corruption investigationa on every level of government, jailing everyone involved
Official corruption and bribery investigations for all large companies that have worked with the US government, jailing all CEOs who bribed US government officials
Complete revision of how elections work
The only outlier may be reverting the pardons, as I am not sure there is a legal vehicle for that. One could be constructed, but it is part of a larger conversation about the intention of the checks and balances between the three branches and how that has been eroded.
Investigating those pardoned for other crimes, however, should be easily available and pursued steadfastly. I do worry about the broad terms of some pardons that may have included language such as ‘any and all’, and even ‘future’. Abominable.
Congress and a future president could push back on the power of the pardon. Just prosecute them anyway, and say ‘the constitution doesn’t allow the president to pardon future crimes.’
Honestly, the supreme Court doesn’t have enforcement power. They can be ignored. I’ve seen an op ed calling on Congress to repeal marbury vrs madison. They gave themselves that power, it can be revoked by the body that actually represents the people of the country.
Don’t impeach. Send Hegseth to the Hague,
We would have to impeach him before doing that anyway.
Send Hegseth to Tehran please, we will feed him ghormesabzi and recite poetry over tea.
This, rightfully, should be the United States’ eternal shame.
Nobody should ever, ever let us live this down, no matter how much time passes or how good our behavior on it’s face may seem.
I’m not convinced y’all won’t swing just as hard to the right in a couple elections
If the Democrats fuck this up like they are planning to, it will be in 2028.
sure seems like it’s going to happen. and when it does, we will deserve to be shamed for it
It’s the most likely outcome.
Given a lot of stuff from the past no one seems to care about, I seriously doubt that will happen.
I don’t blame them not trusting the US government. Just wish I didn’t get blamed for my asshole government and countrymen. I get it’s the hazard of a collective association, but it sucks to be lumped in with people I despise and have fought to prevent.
As an Iranian I know this feeling. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t; it’s always too little, too late. You just gotta keep going, don’t lose track of what’s right.
Agreed. That’s excellent advice. I try to be a good representative of my people and to act as a counterbalance where I can. As much as I’m capable anyways. Lol
Sorry my country attacked yours. It’s embarrassing and infuriating to me and many others here. I have some Kurdish family friends from Iran, one hasn’t lived there in a long time but her sister still lives there iirc. I hope you and your family are all safe. I loved your country when I got to visit. It is filled with wonderful and warm people.
Oh, you visited Iran? That’s amazing. I wish more people were able to travel to Iran, or dared I suppose. There’s so much to see in terms of varied culture, history and nature.
All Iranians know that most Americans oppose war, and we hold no grudge against you. It’s not on you to apologize, but thank you for doing so all the same. Being a good example for others is the best thing any of us can hope to be.
We hated you before Trump, we’re going to hate you after him.
I’m getting really tired of hate.
I’m a Floridian whose blood pressure dropped significantly after our midterm elections. The hate is literally harming my body. I know it’s not done and this is the first step out of many before we can be considered somewhat decent but I feel a little bit better about where America is as a country. But I don’t want you guys to let up on yet. Make it hard on us and make us learn a lesson. The hate sucks but it’s a motivator and a driver and we need some tough love right now. Don’t let up on us.
Tough love is when you persost in loving someone despite the difficulties in doing so. What people call “tough love” these days is just abrasiveness disguised as care, and that shift was caused by narcissistic sociopaths who characterize the harm they do to others as for their own good.
Thanks for the correction on terminology. I’ll try to keep that in mind.
I really enjoy your framing of “tough love” versus the generally accepted definition. I do see room for both definitions, but ideally only if the no-nonsense approach to feedback for a loved one is underscored in the way you mention.
I feel this way as an American. Average libs are thrilled that our team won but I’m here still worried we’re trapped on the one way ratchet towards Idiocracy
It’s okay to celebrate a victory today, but we have so much work to do. The hateful people are still here, and discontent over gas prices doesn’t necessarily mean that voters have turned away from the same dangerous ideas that got us here in the first place. This could be a very temporary recovery.
I’m concerned that a large portion may have chosen rightly, but for wrong reasons, and could just as easily be swayed back again.
It’s never too late to turn things around. You are not alone. Millions of other Americans want the same. We’re rooting for you guys, but you have to do the work.
Lol, nope. You people have done the absolute bare minimum in one isolated case and a significant chunk of America didn’t even do that.
And let’s be serious, it’s not because you want us to be allies and friends again. It’s because you’re dissatisfied with fucking gas prices which are up because of a war YOU started.
We had decades of partnership and we Canadians stuck by you through thick and thin. We fought and died alongside you in Afghanistan, Italy, Normandy and battlefields around the world. We gave you our natural resources and our money. And then YOU destroyed that in a couple of years. We even gave you a second chance after the first disastrous Trump presidency. And you spat in our faces.
The only way we get to be friends again is after a VERY long and VERY sustained pattern of decent behavior on your part.
Until then fuck all the way off.
Yeah, no.
Nah, they just need gas money.
I am of the (extreme) opinion, that nobody currently alive should seek any kind of relationship / alliance with Murica again. Let them suffer the consequences of their idiocy for a century. I mean, how deranged does one have to be to elect a child-rapist and 37-time convicted felon?
Of course, that’s not gonna happen, but it’d be nice.
There are a lot of people who didn’t elect a child-rapist that you are condemning. Think of the worst people you know; I don’t want to be your friend because you know of that terrible person.
That’s how I feel about Germany but yet…
