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    Trump did a big long rambling heat speech about him the other day, so I knew I liked him.

    Not that my opinion matters.

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          If that’s how you interpret my comment that’s on you. I feel Talarico will do more for marginalized communities than anyone TX had on the ballot in 50+ years.

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              You’ve misinterpreted 2/2 of their comments and misinterpreted Talarico’s beliefs about trans people.

              Editing your comment to add twice the content as well as chants we both agree with in massive font does absolutely nothing to contribute to this discussion and distracts from what you said.

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                He won the primary by being an unapologetic ally, and then decided it was a losing strategy.

                It’s the same shit CEOs and bad management throw QA, IT, low level programmers, nurses, teachers, or any other frontline workers under the fucking bus. I see right through it, and object to it.

                Trans Rights Are Worker’s Rights

                Trans Rights Are Indigenous Rights

                Trans Rights Are Minority’s Rights

                Trans Rights Are Women’s Rights

                Trans Rights Are Human Rights

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                  Most Democrats in contested areas are actively disconnecting from engaging in Culture War talking points.

                  One can quietly support and vote for trans rights while not openly engaging in arguments about trans people which scare off moderates/fence-sitters/“I’d vote for that Democrat because Trump is terrible, but I’m afraid of trans people” types.


                  FYI to the user who replied to me below, I blocked you a while back when you were doing a bunch of bad faith arguments. I can’t recall if you were one of the people straw-manning western liberals or one of the ones that tagged in to start the name-calling sideshow.

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            Am I not allowed to be disappointed in a candidate? Is the only option unrestrained enthusiasm for a candidate that isn’t interested in protecting my rights?

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              You can be what ever you want, but trump might not be in office right now if the same thing wasn’t going on with people condemning Harris for not being anti Israel, loudly, when there were only two options left.

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                Or maybe Harris shouldn’t have taken unpopular stances on easy-to-win topics. She had the easiest election that I’ve ever seen, and gave it up.

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                You’re condoning shutting the fuck up and just voting?

                You don’t see a problem with that strategy?

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                  When you are down to two choices, yes, you vote for the lesser of two evils. Otherwise you get trump and Paxton.

                  I donated to Crockett and I don’t live in Texas. But at the 11th hour, rallying against Talarico is campaigning for Paxton.

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                  In the american system, yes. Do that and pray it works out, since the only other option you have is get one of those bajillion guns and do a revolution thingy.

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                  As far as electoral progress goes? Yes. Tough titties – that’s how our “democracy” works.

                  We should be mainly focusing on building power in other ways. Strong unions. Solidarity. Parallel power. Mutual aid. Mutual defense. General strike. Outright revolution. But when it comes to elections – yes, you absolutely should keep voting for the marginally less fascist party.

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                  No only our rights, they won’t be affected so they’re fine with it.

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      He almost certainly will be. He’s got a long record of being an ally. We can debate the morality of empty grandstanding to win an election, but whether or not he’ll be better for trans people than Paxton is beyond debate.

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          That clip is exactly what I was referring to as empty grandstanding. He has a long track record of being an ally during the primary and before seeking the senate position at all, and the subtext you’re alleging is not borne out by the totality of what he’s said.

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              In Texas, he’s probably right. There are no Republicans in the Democratic primary afterall, and there are definitely more Republicans in Texas.

              He has to overcome their lifelong soul seared hatred of Democrats and every bit of poison that is crammed into their eyes and ears 24/7. Like sure, he has reality on his side, but he’s still fighting an extremely uphill battle.

              I honestly don’t feel that hopeful for him.

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      It’s true. A Texas born and raised liberal Christian doesn’t 100% match the dream liberal candidate.

      pikacu face

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            All he would have needed to do was object to the fox news question by asking them to define what they meant by biological men. Because there are XX male and XY female phenotypes. There are people with born with both sets of genitals, and operated on to “normalize”. There are Y chromosome polysomies, affecting their secondary sex chararistics.

            They wanna talk about biology, then they better fucking talk about whole god damn thing.

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              Nice try at deflection, not what I asked at all. Since you’re already going for such underhanded tactics I’m not going to entertain this discussion anymore. I asked what bad policy he could have because I question your statement about not wanting a perfect candidate, just one that defends human rights. Because I think you’re going to have a hard time coming up with a bad policy that also isn’t infringing on human rights. Which means you actually do want him to be a perfect candidate.

              Personally I don’t see a big deal with him not publicly supporting trans people considering the state he’s running in. Being openly pro-trans in a deeply anti-trans state means you’re not going to have any shot at doing anything good. Just look at how much he got attacked for saying God is non-binary, something that Catholic church (in a different wording) agrees with. And from what I’ve gathered he’s not anti-trans, he’s simply publicly not pro trans because that would be a political suicide in Texas. And if your issue with him is that he’s not publicly pro trans then you actually do expect him to be a perfect candidate.

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      The Overton window can be shifted left too! I know it sucks but I’m hopeful we can work it so that ALL people are afforded the same rights eventually… Too bad the bar for “good” candidates in Texas is in hell…

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        Yeah speaking of disappointment, it’s disappointing when leftists see rightists and say “Oh no, they’re shifting the Overton window right! I’d better disconnect entirely from the political process so they can do so unimpeded!”

        Assuming - of course - they’re speaking in good faith and not just trolling to corrupt our democracy.

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            But what about my hypothetical candidate who passes all of my subjective purity tests?! Won’t somebody think of that person who didn’t run for this race?

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        An ally with nuance. Probably the best ally I’ve seen of a politician whose main personality trait is his religion.

        I’d probably give him a B or C. Which I don’t believe is high enough to be offended* at members of the LGBT community’s decision not to vote for him. Even if I personally think he would generally be a yes vote for senators that have great track records on supporting lgbt folk. I believe Talarico has an ability to learn and agree to pass more “controversial” bills unlike someone like Gavin Newsom

        *to be clear, I have no right to be offended even if they a 100

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      Not from there, no skin in the game, but he seems like a sound man of principle to me and they’re rare enough in the politics game in my experience.

      I don’t think you’ll be finding him on any future Lolita Express flight logs like.

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        That reminds me.

        It’s James Talarico. I’m not psychic, but I’m 99% certain you didn’t wake up expecting to donate to our campaign. But I need you to at least consider it. Tonight is our final deadline and we need a massive number of donations to reach our goal. Even $1 helps. Please? i.jamestalarico.com/UYLTdbAj

        Stop2End