“well…it’s too late now”
Why is that written on an Office Space screenshot? That doesn’t make any sense. It’s not even close to anything said in that scene.
Why do people insist on shoving memes into everything? Did they not think their post was good enough on its own?
It’s losing it’s meaning over time, probably because the movies not being watched by “new” people very much. If you take out the movie context that made the meme he looks like he could be saying the text and I guess that’s good enough for people.
Memes are funny because its a reference to a thing we both know and thus an inside joke elevated by that fact.
Modern ones are either that, or kind of just “heres a funny picture with text thats kind of funny next to this picture”
How does the picture make it funnier here?
I don’t think I’ll ever understand the affinity for it. It’s the Internet equivalent of that annoying kid in middle school who couldn’t have a conversation without quoting The Simpsons or South Park lol
Meh; a lot of those guys were my friends.
PHP is dead. Learn PHP.
I’m looking forward to living long enough to see this meme age another 30 years with PHP still alive and well.
So, you could have programmed happily in php for 30 years, or jump on the new bandwagon every other year? compelling argument.
One does not program happily in PHP
While the language has improved over the years, I’ve personally never seen a PHP codebase that made me happy.
Or, if you spin it another way: you could’ve picked up the skills to develop for and support various frameworks, or get stuck in a rut for 30 years with just a single antiquated server-side language.
If its so antiquated why is it still used? For a lot of things its perfectly fine. Even this vulnerability is just a case of run the update command for your package manager.
It’s still used because momentum is a powerful factor. That doesn’t make PHP better, but it can make it a more expedient choice.
PHP is a preprocessor that grew too big for its britches. It’s a monolithic monster that runs only one thread per request in an interpreter. It works well enough if you need to manage the data of an internet forum, but it becomes increasingly unsuitable as the task’s complexity grows. If you need threading or background tasks, or if scalability is important, PHP is not it; just read any number of Nextcloud vs OpenCloud comparisons.
“one thread per request” , “interpreter”
(Looks confusingly) That’s JS and Python as well
PS: being obtuse on purpose, but PHP lends itself well to typical requirements of web hosting and you can always call out to a diff process if needed
Fair, but a lot of sites don’t need anything more complex than an internet forum, often less than even that.
You realize that the language evolved over the years and it’s not even close to the same language it was 15 years ago?
The fact that you also mix frameworks and languages also tells me that you have no idea what you’re talking about
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now.
.NET is the single best thing Microsoft makes.
It’s fast, multi platform (all mine runs in Linux containers), and the developer tools are pretty good too.
I really HATE that Microsoft made it, but I love C# and .NET.
Last place I worked at that
abusedused .Net was serving an angular web app to interface with a c++ BE using soap.Now that sounds sane, until they made their own C++ to CSS transpiler to be able define the ui in back end code. Like angular written in c++ translated through .Net.
Through no fault of .Net I just can’t get past those flashbacks.
To be fair that’s only like top 5 most fucked up code I saw there.
I blame Microsoft for that
And
COBALCOBOL just won’t die.It better not. I’ve invested all my money in it.
COBOL*
Stupid phone
As backend code, yes. As a web (web, not api. As an api platform they’re great) platform… No.
Asp.net and mvc were imo a disaster, silverlight was… Oof.
Then there is maui which could have done it using blazor but just… Didnt.
… And then there is blazor itself. Though blazor is imo the best of all the web platforms they had, and i like it, it still has very rough edges and is not gonna replace javascript any time soon.
Hell, microsoft cant even decently support their own web ui platform ( fluentui ) because their backbone ( webcomponents ) is completely broke ( or did v3 FINALLY release? ). There are other blazor frameworks but they all seem to not take full advantage of blazor and its disgusting.What about modern ASP.NET? It feels pretty good these days honestly. I even really like the newer minimal API features
As i said, the api stuff of asp.net is very nice and straight to the point. The only bad thing ive got to note there is the openapi spec implementation they introduced in .net 10 is just terrible but itll improve quickly, its just early in its implementation ( like how system.text.json was )
Oh whoops, I just can’t read
So glad to see that Python finally made it big in 2022
It’s thanks to Django and Flask paving the way in 2003 and 2010 respectively.
And if everything had moved to one of those, almost surely there would also be similar impacts in a similar cve to point at to say “we should be using something else!”
Why is Python on the list three times?
JavaScript has similar.
AngularJS doesn’t even make sense here.
The first two are frameworks, the third is:
def serve(p: int, f): s = socket.socket() s.setsockopt(socket.SOL_SOCKET, socket.SO_REUSEADDR, 1) # let me reset plz s.bind(("", p)) s.listen() while True: c, a = s.accept() c.setsockopt(socket.IPPROTO_TCP, socket.TCP_NODELAY, 1) t = threading.Thread(target=serve0, args=(c, a, f)) t.daemon = True t.start()I have an entire file of some really cursed malicious compliance code for when I was brutally forced to write Python.
I notice the absolute absence of
"index.html"There are a few XHTML pages and templates later in the file hardcoded into single strings. Some stuff is populated from markdown (or was it gemtext? don’t feel like opening it again). I used XHTML because it’s easier to notice escaping mistakes.
Because Python is supreme.
Burrito supreme or a chicken supreme?
Love supreme ❤️
Seriously, I came to post this exact comment. Damn.
Everyone has forgotten java applets+ java servlets combo. I have no idea why it didn’t survive, but if it would have, it’d defeated PHP (in amount of vulnerabilities ofc)
Because people hate building FactoryFactoryFactories
I was told in school that Java applets were the future and they made us take a class that focused heavily on them. I did make a few games in applets, but they were always janky and I am glad they are dead.
I had to remove the applet-based server architecture when moving java 11->17.
The authors thought that it would be the right decision to accept code from users as applets
That’s both hilarious and scary. Scarlarious, if you will.
Now comes the scariest part. We removed this in early 2024
I work with some companies still running code from the late 90s, so I know this feel. It IS scary and I can only tell them to stop so much.
Thank you for your service
Applets were killed by Flash, which then became obsolete.
Applets were killed before that due to repeated severe security issues and Sun fucking around and not making them good in my recollection. Flash was just easiest applets with no Java and died for much of the same reason a decade later.
Time traveler: Moves a chair
The resulting timeline: PHP is dead for good. However, after some vibe coding caused massive errors in the ADSF framework (that replaced PHP), people are running to vibecode a fix, only to that cause another issue.
Oh my gosh if I could time travel and prevent generative AI from happening I would do it so fast. Although I do want to keep the academic and medical usage domains of AI. 🤔 HMM.
The medical usage of AI was shut down, because tech bros think singularity is 6 months away, then the LLM will turn into Robbie Robot from the hit cartoon series The Adventures of Robbie Robot, and starts curing cancer.
I bet AI could help you invent a time machine!
🫨
Need to go back and convince Alan Turing to change his test.
PHP is dead, learn Brainfuck
Brainfuck? You need our Lord and savior, HolyC
Just spent my entire morning patching legacy servers running PHP 7.0 applications. Fun times.
This is (also) about C++.
Perl + Mason
When I was a wee high school kid, asp.net was windows only back then and getting cheap windows hosting was harder than it was getting cheap linux hosting, so I focused on PHP more.
I haven’t touched it in forever, but its probably still good, right?Asp.net is a bit old hat these days, but Blazor is pretty cool, though personally I don’t know many people that use it. .Net is very much good now though.
It’s good
