• Talcosis@lemmy.zip
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    10 days ago

    On paper both are small business owners. Most truckers are, too. One sixth of truckers are, too.

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      10 days ago

      They’re not. They’re not at all. What do you think a small business owner even is?

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        10 days ago

        Someone that owns their own income generating property. I.e., a business. Which is small. Local definitions put that at either <500 employees or <7.5m operating revenue.

        I was wrong though, only ~16% of truckers are small business owners. They’re the ones called “owner operators”. Because they own their own truck.

        Technically, anyone filling out form 1099 come tax time is a small business owner.

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          10 days ago

          Well at least you know now why a Doordash or Uber driver is decidedly not a small business owner.

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              10 days ago

              Dude … I’m pretty sure there’s been a ton of legal precedent set that Uber drivers are employees of Uber, same with DoorDash, and all the rest.

              Just because they’re trying to say “oooh 1099 independent contractor” and hand wave away our shared reality does not make it true. I won’t reply any further but if you honestly think a dude driving for DoorDash is a small business owner you’re just being blatantly obstinate and obfuscating the meaning of owner.

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                There’s been a lot of court cases, but no nationwide precedent set. Even the states that have additional protections don’t blanket classify Uber drivers as employees.

                That’s kind of the whole point of the Uber situation. Right now, they are considered small business owners doing freelance contracts. Uber is intentionally using this to cut operating costs and avoid paying their workers.

                Unfortunately, that is the reality, and Gavin newsome saying it’s wrong, even in a formal executive order sense, means nothing.