• Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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    19 hours ago

    Okay, but if your cyperpunk RPG has “d20 plus modifier vs target number” action resolution, 4-8 ability scores, skill bonuses, feats, classes, races/ancestries/backgrounds… You’re going to need to explain how it’s NOT like D&D. And if you proceed to describe PbtA, I will laugh at you.

    I won’t shame you for being like D&D. I will shame you for pretending you’re not.

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      13 hours ago

      The d20 System, used as the basis for D&D 3rd edition, was in fact explicitly made to accommodate different settings and additions.

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      18 hours ago

      It depends what you mean by “like d&d”. I’ve heard the phrase is used by different groups to mean:

      • Has a generic fantasy setting
      • Has similar mechanics to d&d
      • Has bad mechanics
      • Has dice mechanics
      • Is mostly about fighting
      • Is a trad game
      • Is not a story game
      • Is an RPG
      • Is not cool
      • Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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        17 hours ago

        For me, at least, “like D&D” can mean a lot of things. There are some games where you can tell their starting design point was just D&D, and everything else is either a tweak, a replacement or an addition. It doesn’t matter what gets changed, so long as it’s obvious what it was changed from.

        The Fantasy Age system does a lot of things differently, but you can still tell they were working with D&D as their base design. You roll 3d6, but you still add your ability (and a skill bonus if you have the skill) and compare it to a target number.

      • Azura The Spellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        18 hours ago

        FYI your line breaks get collapsed. Don’t worry, it’s still comprehensible. Formatting tip: bullet lists would’ve worked here. Alternatively, for a single line break you can end the line with 2 spaces or a backslash (\)

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          18 hours ago

          Thank you! Must be an mbin/lemmy diference cause it was correctly formatted for me. I just made it bullet points so it’s clear for all.

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      18 hours ago

      nah its just piles and piles of d6s and 9 in-game seconds of combat take 3-4 hours of irl time (and 2-3 months off GM lifetime) guess what are we playing 😌

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      18 hours ago

      D12 is objectively the best dice and I need to find a system that’ll let me use them more.

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        8 hours ago

        One Ring is 1d12 + <Skill Level>d6. TN is based on the characters attribute score. It creates a system where a lot of actions are only possible on critical success for anyone who doesn’t specialize in the skill. 11 is crit fail, so your non-crit maximum is 10+skill*6. Even with one skill level in something associated with an attribute you are weak in, you may have a max of 16 and a TN of 18, making it impossible unless the DM adds a modifier.

        Each 6 on a roll lets the player add a little subtle magic to the result though, which is a cool way to implement magic being everpresent and a result of getting really good at ordinary things.

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    12 hours ago

    As someone who recently started a GURPS game set in Cyberpunk 2077… nope! Been some really rough spots introducing it to my table that’s been running Pathfinder for over a decade

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    17 hours ago

    honestly, this is fine. I think people within the rpg space forget that the general public largely has no idea that the space exists. they have never heard the term “tabletop role-playing game,” but they have a vague impression that “d&d” means nerds sitting around rolling dice and pretending to be in a fictional scenario, so if your game is anything like that, “kinda like d&d” is a fine descriptor for that audience

    or as the famous tweet says: “guy who’s only ever seen Boss Baby watching a second movie: kinda getting Boss Baby vibes.” inaccurate or ridiculous as it may seem, if that’s the only exposure someone has to the concept of a “movie,” then using that as a jumping-off point to explain that other stories of different types can be told by pre-recorded moving images is still useful. you have to introduce the medium in general before worrying about genres within the medium, or works within the genre