Okay that killing sounds brutal as fuck, but also she was a mentally ill kid. Capital punishment is wrong, but not every case is a hill I’ll die on, you know?
But there is not even a semblance of justice here.
At 18, she brutally murdered a classmate and coreobated reports had her bragging about the murder before and after it occurred. That is not a mental health episode. That is real evil.
Just because you have trauma, you don’t get a free pass to murder/mutilate your classmates.
Not executing her isn’t a “pass”. She has been in prison 30 of her 50 years. I’m not even saying her debt is paid. I’m just saying she absolutely should not be executed.
No one said “free pass to murder.” Whether you agree that her family and society failed her or not, the idea that governments get to kill people is insanely dangerous.
Still on the fence about the death penalty, it’s a coin flip to me if it’s worse to spend your life in prison or take a quicker way out. She probably was failed to some degree, but that still isn’t an excuse for murder. Life in prison at a minimum.
No one deserves life in our current prison system.
I agree that there are people that need to be separated from society at least temporarily. We just need a better system before I’ll condemn anyone to it.
Our system is broken beyond belief for sure, but murder is something that puts you away for a long long time regardless what country you get convicted in, and rightfully so.
Recording of her actual conversations after the fact point to the opposite if bragging. She was also sexually abused by multiple family members for her entire childhood and then thrown in a horribly abusive “troubled teen” camp where she underwent more abuse. Also her boyfriend threw her under the bus to avoid his own equal complicity in the murder. You have no clue what you are talking about and people like you disgust me.
A lighter sentence than death? Okay she committed murder as a child and has spent her entire adult life in prison, showed remorse, got mental health support and is even a mentor for other prisoners. Why does she deserve death?
First, 18 years old is not a child. Life in prison would work too. Someone capable and motivated enough to carry out murder shouldn’t be intermingling with the general populous. I think there are crimes out there that are unforgivable if done intentionally.
18 is a child, especially for someone who was deprived of any innocence due to being sexually assaulted from birth. The human brain doesn’t complete development until mid 20s, this is a scientific fact. Just because someone is legally old enough to be treated as an adult in the Draconian legal system that is famous for abusing and wrongfully incriminating people, doesn’t mean that people are fully developed by 18. The legal system used to allow for slavery and marriage of adults to children. If all you are going off of is the letter of the law, you are revealing yourself to be more evil than the person you seem happy to condemn to death
An 18 year old that can legally give consent is by all legal standards, an adult, and fully expected to abide by the law.
Also, never mentioned sex/consent at all. Why you gotta get weird with it? An adult women that murders someone is just as much a murderer than an adult man that murders someone.
I dont know how old you are and I am not talking about the law. I mean 18 years old is still an actually child as far as I consider. You’re the one being weird gleefully celebrating executing a woman that was abused as a child and did something horrible as a child but has been in prison over 30 years largely because it happened in the midst of the satanic panic of the 90s. I am fundamentally against the death penalty on principle and nobody was talking about just “freeing a murderer” again I stand by my statement you are one sick fuck and this comment solidified by assumption when I mentioned consent.
I mean, 30 years in prison and a botched execution, it doesn’t sound like she got a free pass at all. I’m sure she can be released on parole at this point, I mean, surely the US prison system has rehabilitated her by now… /s (sadly)
Okay that killing sounds brutal as fuck, but also she was a mentally ill kid. Capital punishment is wrong, but not every case is a hill I’ll die on, you know?
But there is not even a semblance of justice here.
At 18, she brutally murdered a classmate and coreobated reports had her bragging about the murder before and after it occurred. That is not a mental health episode. That is real evil.
Just because you have trauma, you don’t get a free pass to murder/mutilate your classmates.
Not executing her isn’t a “pass”. She has been in prison 30 of her 50 years. I’m not even saying her debt is paid. I’m just saying she absolutely should not be executed.
No one said “free pass to murder.” Whether you agree that her family and society failed her or not, the idea that governments get to kill people is insanely dangerous.
And what is “coreobated?”
Sorry, corroborated!
Still on the fence about the death penalty, it’s a coin flip to me if it’s worse to spend your life in prison or take a quicker way out. She probably was failed to some degree, but that still isn’t an excuse for murder. Life in prison at a minimum.
No one deserves life in our current prison system.
I agree that there are people that need to be separated from society at least temporarily. We just need a better system before I’ll condemn anyone to it.
Our system is broken beyond belief for sure, but murder is something that puts you away for a long long time regardless what country you get convicted in, and rightfully so.
Recording of her actual conversations after the fact point to the opposite if bragging. She was also sexually abused by multiple family members for her entire childhood and then thrown in a horribly abusive “troubled teen” camp where she underwent more abuse. Also her boyfriend threw her under the bus to avoid his own equal complicity in the murder. You have no clue what you are talking about and people like you disgust me.
Cool motive! Still murder.
The boyfriend also should have gotten life/death.
At what point is someone damaged enough to commit murder and get away with it or graced with a lighter sentence?
A lighter sentence than death? Okay she committed murder as a child and has spent her entire adult life in prison, showed remorse, got mental health support and is even a mentor for other prisoners. Why does she deserve death?
First, 18 years old is not a child. Life in prison would work too. Someone capable and motivated enough to carry out murder shouldn’t be intermingling with the general populous. I think there are crimes out there that are unforgivable if done intentionally.
18 is a child, especially for someone who was deprived of any innocence due to being sexually assaulted from birth. The human brain doesn’t complete development until mid 20s, this is a scientific fact. Just because someone is legally old enough to be treated as an adult in the Draconian legal system that is famous for abusing and wrongfully incriminating people, doesn’t mean that people are fully developed by 18. The legal system used to allow for slavery and marriage of adults to children. If all you are going off of is the letter of the law, you are revealing yourself to be more evil than the person you seem happy to condemn to death
Eww. I really shudder to think of what your ideas of consent are.
Maybe you should actually read about the case you sick fuck.
An 18 year old that can legally give consent is by all legal standards, an adult, and fully expected to abide by the law.
Also, never mentioned sex/consent at all. Why you gotta get weird with it? An adult women that murders someone is just as much a murderer than an adult man that murders someone.
I dont know how old you are and I am not talking about the law. I mean 18 years old is still an actually child as far as I consider. You’re the one being weird gleefully celebrating executing a woman that was abused as a child and did something horrible as a child but has been in prison over 30 years largely because it happened in the midst of the satanic panic of the 90s. I am fundamentally against the death penalty on principle and nobody was talking about just “freeing a murderer” again I stand by my statement you are one sick fuck and this comment solidified by assumption when I mentioned consent.
I mean, 30 years in prison and a botched execution, it doesn’t sound like she got a free pass at all. I’m sure she can be released on parole at this point, I mean, surely the US prison system has rehabilitated her by now… /s (sadly)