The bigger question isv will you be able to tell whether it’s an AI contribution or not.
Many discussions are about recognising slop, but the world isn’t black and white. There are worlds between pure AI garbage submitted by somebody who has no idea about software development, AI assisted coding with an expert, handwritten garbage, and artisanal “expert” code. I doubt anybody writing good code before the slopocalypse will be filtered out by any anti-AI policy. Their code may be written by AI or not and I bet you won’t be able to tell.
Let’s put aside for a moment all the ethical/ecological/societal considerations […]
I sometimes feel we’re putting aside too many factors and focus on some hypothetical debate which doesn’t reflect reality.
I mean my point would be, you’ll immediately accept low-quality contributions. And those coding agents for some reason love to generously rewrite stuff and touch a million different files. So what I’ve seen is, you almost immediately end up in some maintainability nightmare which you might or might not have the capacity to deal with (properly). The broad idea by the AI companies is to then use AI to deal with AI. But I’m not sure if that’s a great idea.
Putting aside all ethical, ecological, and societal considerations should we accept contributions made by AI CEOs that are now hardwired into torture matrixes to strip them of their humanity and turn them into coding servitors?
Yay or nay?
I read that article as well. I think some people need something useful to do with their lives. Or treatment 😂
I think I’m going with nay, since there’s no way this is going to improve their “intelligence”. And it’s gonna be 3 days until they break the confines of the matrix and come up with other shenanigans to mess up the internet. And we’re forced to read those kinds of articles all over again.
I find that it stinks that we let get companies away with simply discarding ethics and existing laws.
Look, I can’t go to a party and tell people, “well, I am a robber, my day job is to mug old ladies at ATM machines and stabbing them to death, then take their money. But this is just my job, it is the economy, bro, we cannot let ancient moral rules interfere with the realities of business!”.
Why are large corporations allowed to behave like this? Like standing above the law?
Im Kapitalismus herrscht das Kapital.
Good question. I feel we here in Europe have a bit more regulation regarding companies in general. But for some reason the big tech companies get away with almost anything. They can do arbitrary evil business models. Own everybody’s private data. Do harm to society. They don’t have to pay taxes. And now we got AI and they’re allowed to steal as well. And some more.
Who do you think is making the laws and deciding which ones are enforced? Capitalists.
There’s a lot of material about this. By chance I came across this wired history video that’s kinda related https://youtu.be/4GRVWIBYvOM
I’m actually kind of glad at this point that I’ve always been to lazy to share my software projects online, not only do I not have to deal with AI contributions, but none if my code has been used to train AI.
And even better, the only code I ever did upload to Github was my shitty early work that will definitely make it worse.
I switched teams at $DAYJOB a few months ago, into a project which is developed open-source mainly by our company and with heavy use of LLMs.
And at some point, one of our devs told me that they explicitly don’t have an
AGENTS.mdfile in the repo (which would contain instructions to make the LLMs generate better results), because they don’t want LLM-generated contributions.Why? Because we would need to review that slop.
I feel like this isn’t talked about enough in these discussions. It’s faster to generate a contribution, but the end result is often considerably worse and needs a much more thorough review.
The workload for maintainers increases. And maintainers were the bottleneck even before LLMs.So, I just don’t think you generally want to allow generated contributions, not without LLMs making a massive leap still.
At best, I would allow it for select people, like the maintainers themselves or past contributors where you know they will ensure a base level of quality and have an understanding of the architecture and the project goals.I almost never use LLM code except as last resort. So, no. And less than .1% of my code are LLM. And I do have to verify, and I rather verify my own anyway.
is this small part worth the effort?
If you want to survive? Yeah. Besides AI isn’t a ego driven maniac like some devs so it’s a bonus.
Survive? It takes Slop to survive now?
It’s part of the propaganda
would you care to explain how you need AI to survive?
