I still can’t stop but think how stretched out the Hobbit films were, for an otherwise short book. That’s a sin that stains forever with me. The Lord of the Rings films, do have their own flaws, but they’re fairly contained and can be debated as to whether they were good or not. I have so much trouble excusing anything with the Hobbit though.

And I hope we never, ever see anyone tackle The Silmarillion. Simply because, there will be so much improvised fluff in that would-be film, that it’d make the Hobbit films blush.

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    Bill Maher has had a prime television slot since 1993.

    That ignorant asshole has been pretending to represent the “left” for 33 years while being a smug reactionary idiot.

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          Another podcast that ruined me If Books Could Kill. It is increasingly clear to me that being popular and established are two enormous red flags. And, comically, “being a rebel” is part of the armor all these people wear. The podcast covered an economist who labelled himself, “the bad boy of economics” despite being an established professor and having won a ton of prestigious awards… it’s all an act because just coming out as an obvious bootlicker is disqualifying, you have to camouflage yourself with trivial rebellions (Maher smokes pot! omg!) or against people not in the power structure (in Maher’s case, most often women, trans, and gays).

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      I’m super ignorant about celebrities’ self-marketing but i thought Maher was a libertarian only pretending he wasn’t racist. he actually claimed to be on the leftish region of politics?

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        In the skewed US scale, yes. He has usually described himself as a liberal, which is as close as anyone on mainstream TV got to being on the left until Bernie Sanders made waves in the 2016 campaign.

        He recently had dinner with Trump while kissing his ass and said that he may vote for JD Vance next time because of the woke.

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      he pretends to be “Aethiest” but he really isnt, since he subscribes to judiasm/zionism just not out loud as right now.

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    Every time a company does a tax write off and trashes the film. If they’re canning it, it’s ours. It’s public domain. Take it as a loss, we subsidize it, then it’s ours. Coyote vs Acme is the unicorn that got released. It should never have been thrown away.

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      I’ve felt this for a long time. Taxes are for public benefit, if you’re writing off an intellectual property to avoid taxes that property is now for public use.

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    For me, the Mass Effect 3 ending at launch. It’s still aggressively mediocre after several patches and DLCs, but the original at launch was genuinely insulting. I have only been invested in a piece of media like that a few times in my life—the shittiness of that ending really ruined me for a few days. It was an entire decade before I could muster up the desire to replay the trilogy. I’ll still be mad about it when I’m on my deathbed.

    Game of Thrones ending was less disappointing for me.

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        No, if you loved 1 and 2 you should finish it. They have updated the ending so it’s not miserable, but set expectations accordingly. However, ME3 does have some great high points. It was a rushed mess at release. Face import failed for characters that played through 1 and 2, for example.

        I have a lot of complaints, but I wouldn’t completely ignore the game if you love the series.

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      Fox never gave it a fair shake. It premiered in a time slot where TV shows go to die, and they aired episodes out of order. The pilot episode, which sets up basically everything wasn’t the first episode aired. Damn shame.

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      The biggest tragedy in SF shows. I watch it again and get angry at the

      end of the final episode all over again.

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    Fox screwing Firefly with that stupid broadcast schedule (although it was cancelled before Joss could make it weird)

    Star Wars: A LOT of things, but I’ll focus on Episode 9 being absolute dog shit

    Game of Thrones, I don’t think I need to expand on it

    Probably the most unforgivable thing is the legacy and ongoing sexual exploitation of minors in the entertainment industry, but I don’t think that’s what OP had in mind

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      I was upset about the expanse too. Talked to a coworker for a while about it and he said go read the books, just start at book 7 you really won’t be missing much. So I did and immediately knew the 30 year time jump wouldn’t have worked on screen. We still might get more a few years down the line when the actors age up. Also I’m glad I got into the books it was the spark that got me into audiobooks. Started listening to the expanse authors new series and I think that’s getting picked up by Amazon as well.

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        I actually did start reading the books and then decided to stop and just watch the show, but then I forgot the books existed, so that’s fun I can go and read them now

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      I’m not a dumb man but I never could figure out the expanse, I’d always get lost of what was going on

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        I had a hard time with season 1 because it kept jumping between so many different things. I gave up on it then tried again after a couple years after hearing. It got sooo good and then got even better. Then I read the books. In the show they needed to introduce a character earlier in the story whereas in the books it’s not until book 2. So that contributed to some of that disjointedness.

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          Yeah, I had to rewatch Season 1, because I didn’t get hooked the first time. Afterwards I think it gets much better.

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        It was always too agro for me. I watched the first season at the request of a friend, but after that I hated every minute.

        Edit: It was great at first because the plot was breakneck and focused on the cast, but around episode 6 of season one it starts out witn “11 years earlier” and I knew the good part was over.

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      I was rather excited when I heard about the reboots. And for the most part, I did enjoy the different takes on things. But I couldn’t stand how small they made the galaxy. Few hours to get to Vulcan, a transwarp system that sent a man to Klingon space in a matter of days. No scale at all. But it took me years to watch the third one, and didn’t like it at all.

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        Even in Star Wars, the one he claims to like more, he sort of broke the fuzzy-time that Hyperspace travel seemed to take.

        They were never explicit about travel times (and fair enough, Star Wars is what it is), but clearly in ANH they had time to come down from the adrenaline-dump of escaping the Imperials at Tattooine and settle in, such that Chewy was playing board games with the passengers and Ben thought it was going to be leisurely enough to kick off history lessons and lightsaber drills. Everything about that screams hours-long flight at an absolute minimum, and to my mind more like a few days on a tramp steamer. JJ turned it into “HERP DERP INSTANT LOLZ! The implied passage of time is BORRRRRING!”

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    A lot of the original episodes of Pokemon were never dubbed in Danish. I will never forget. Never forgive.

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    Star wars. I just have such a love/frustration relationship with it. This includes stuff produced by George Lucas btw.

    I feel like it tries to appease all crowds. The family friendly crowd, the autistic nerdy crowd, the politics obsessed crowd and so on.

    Andor for example is peak star wars, because it’s made specifically for one audience. No one’s taking their 6yo to watch this.

    The problem is when a kids’ show has the prerequisite plot for a show with a totally different audience.

    Take the clone wars for example. It started as nothing more than a kids’ show. Then, it ended dark. Same with rebels. Look at episode 3. Amazing amazing plot with the transformation of the Republic into the empire. And then you have jar jar binks.

    Let’s not even begin to talk about Disney.

    Star wars just has so much potential due to its huge world and the Jedi/sith stuff. But it’s just so frustrating to see how such art can be wounded by the will to earn money.

    I know this isn’t “the most unforgivable sin” or whatever, but I suppose it’s definitely up there. It’s the sin of painting an angry face emoji on top of a beautiful and detailed painting of an unimaginabley cruel monster, just so that more toys can be sold.

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      The biggest problem with Star wars is how each subsequent movie keeps inventing bigger bigger lasers to destroy more and more planets. It’s as if they can’t think of anything else.

      In the last movie the first order destroyed multiple planets in one shot, despite the fact that they supposed to be this scrappy little fighting force that’s all that’s left of the empire. They’re supposed to be terrorists or something and yet they have technology that can rival the empire at its peak. How’s that supposed to work?

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    The end of Battlestar Galactica.

    They literally tied up all the loose threads into a bundle labeled “God did it” and then refused to speculate about God because that’s distasteful.

    It’s sci-fi. You speculate. It’s what the genre does.

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      Not a fan of the ending myself but c’mon, it’s been a religious sci-fi since season one, dealing with prophecies, visions and existential questions. God was always going to be a part of the equation. Unless they revealed the nature of god being some machine or a more developed civilization, at which point they would never be able to finish the show because that wouldn’t be an answer but a whole new set of questions.

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        You are 100% correct.

        I have rewatched the series and come to some peace about it, but it is still the first one to come to mind for this thread.

        Religion was always woven into the series, and the original was somewhat Mormon inspired.

        But that last bit, the evolving nature of god and the whole new set of questions was what I was hoping it would touch on.

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          I had a Classics professor call it a sci-fi version of The Odyssey. It does have some aspects of it. I’m not sure how intentional it is. It would make the god stuff all the more appropriate though.

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      I agree the ending was lame, and really for a while leading up to it was too. However, I can’t see it ever having a payoff that it deserves for how good it started. I don’t think there’s any conclusion that would satisfy fans. It could have been better, but I think it always would have been viewed as not as good as the start.

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      it was terrible, because the showrunner was also religious thats why the god stuff was all in there in the first place. he hated the sci-fi aspects of it, to “Trek-kie” so he removed all the material form the og series, lasers,etc. other alien races.

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      I love/hated BSG ever since they expanded the number of Cylons for like the 3rd time. It was around that time it leaked that they didn’t have any plan and Ron Moore had been lying to the fans for years.

      After it was over he said, (paraphrased) “LOL, There was no plan. If someone suggested more hidden cylons and it sounded dramatic we would go with it and figure out what that would mean in the next writing session.”

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        also the humanoid cylon, shouldve got more origin arc in thier creation. by the time of the series they were fully there already. also kinda ignoring the og series too.

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        Yeah, if you put in the opening the line “They have a plan,” you better damned well know what that plan is.

        In the end the plan was “We’re gonna kill 'em all!!”

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      My interpretation is that they landed on earth. The godS did it and the survivors would be the Greek population, hence all the mythological names (Apollo, Trace. Adama, Aghathon) The monotheistic plotline is a froreshadowing for what would happen on earth.

      In a way they themselves become the gods, as knowledge of spaceflight dilutes and the old stories got retold. Eventually monotheims would rear it’s head again. with a Gaius like person to kindle it.

      But somehow some fear of foreign tricksters persist, it there in philosophy and in myth. The cylons keep a certain base level of fear untill humanity will develop them again, against it’s knowing better.

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      I guess it’s how you interpret it? I thought it was a good ending and spoke to an endless loop of humanity and meaninglessness.

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    It’s happening right now.

    The oligarch’s buying out the US mass media is fucking criminal and truly unforgivable.

    Social media, print, video and television is all owned by a few elites that have been manipulating the minds of society, gaslighting and outright lying to our faces.

    It’s why we have a fascist pedophile as president, our social support systems being dismantled and the right of women, minorities and immigrants being taken away.

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      oh yea they had to make all these movies/shows to include more “wide audiences” which you know what it means. the new sg was cancelled for this very reason, they dint want to make it too broad and turn it into a slop/drama like SGU.

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      I would agree but with the caveat- everything jj Abrams has touched that he didn’t make originally

      His original works are fine. Super 8 is up there with some of the better modern scifi movies, his work on lost is legendary. But then you have both star trek and star wars… what a failure to both.

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        Aw. I actually liked his Star Treks…pretty much in the same way I like remixes or covers of my favorite songs, anyway.

        Edit: I enjoyed them for being popcorn flicks and don’t think they overwrite the source material. Just a different take.

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        I liked Lost for the most part, but he is way too fond of throwing out too many unresolved mystery boxes.