In audio from the fundraiser in Southampton, N.Y., which was provided to The Canadian Press by a source who attended the private function, Vance said Carney is a “very sweet guy” and he gets along with him quite well.

But, Vance said, Carney “comes in and puffs his chest out and says, ‘I’m going to, like, out-tough Donald Trump.’”

“It’s hilarious because Carney presents this as some victory for Canada when fundamentally, like, they climb down on a lot of issues,” Vance told the room.

“And the whole point of this is to change Canada’s behaviour,” Vance said. “Which they, you know, not entirely, but they’ve certainly shifted in a Trumpian direction.”

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    14 days ago

    No we didn’t. Vance is a liar who is trying to sound tough and just sounds like a boot licker afraid to get kicked for failing again.

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      We don’t know the details of the deal yet but it certainly doesn’t sound like we won much.

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        14 days ago

        We’re going to take some Ls. That doesn’t mean sentiment has shifted. I won’t glaze Carney, but thus far he does appear to actually be fighting, which is more than I can say for anyone CCP or UCP. We’re walking a tight rope right now though. Too aggressive and we end up like Cuba, if not like Iran. Their current leadership doesn’t care that the people won’t like it, or that they are already running low on several critical supply categories. We got comfortable and didn’t diversify the way we should have, taking the easy road to profit and not creating internal resilience. We do appear to be taking the right steps to rectify that but a nation of 50M people doesn’t turn on a dime.

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      He surely over exaggerated but Carney is is not doing a good job against Trump

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          He’s not great, but we don’t have a better alternative right now. Unless Avi Lewis manages to pull off a miracle, it’s Carney, or active Trump boot-lickers. If the Cons won we’d already be the 51st state.

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        14 days ago

        Poilievre would have got his dick all the way down his throat.

        It’s very hard to negotiate with a trading partner when the trade is so unbalanced. We can be all elbows out but we can also kill most of our economy to do that.

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          Trump is bad worked so well in the usa right ? and of course trump and Poilievre are bad It could be the same here in canada when people are too angry for trusting the current leader and getting backstabbed they lose rationality and would vote for the other no matter how the other side could be far far worse