‘They call us extreme, they call us radical,’ the progressive Senate candidate said. ‘But I think people see through that’
It wasn’t supposed to be this way.
In conservative Florida, Alex Vindman – a retired army intelligence officer who blew this whistle on Donald Trump in his first term – appeared set to carry the Democratic establishment banner as the party staged a long-shot bid to topple a Republican US senator.
Florida’s Democratic voters had other ideas.
Democratic socialist Angie Nixon emerged a surprise victor in the US Senate primary on Tuesday, after a campaign in which she was outfunded and outspent by Vindman at a ratio of more than 10 to one.
People are finally realizing the current establishment Democrats and who they want to push, are part of the problem, not just Republicans.
They see clear unadulterated fascism implemented by the Trump administration and the Dems do nothing.
the current establishment Democrats
They were “establishment Dems” when they controlled the DNC, because that’s the political establishment…
They don’t anymore, but even when they did it always made sense to call them by their faction name: neoliberals.
Who is the “establishment” changes. And the current one supports Mamdani, El-Sayed, (Angie) Nixon, and all the rest of the progressives winning primaries.
Billionaires and neoliberals still in office want people to think they’re still “the establishment” because they’d rather lose to Republicans than see progressives win.
Shitting on the Dem party right now is just helping the people you’re pissed off at buddy
Who is the “establishment” changes. And the current one supports Mamdani, El-Sayed, (Angie) Nixon, and all the rest of the progressives winning primaries.
Last I checked Hakeem Jeffries was still the House Minority Leader, Leader of the House Democratic Caucus, and Chair of the House Democratic Caucus. Still actively using the same talking points the party has used against big progressive goals like Medicare for All that they have for years now. The same with Chuck Schumer in the Senate. And while Ken Martin didn’t take over the DNC Chair until 2025, he was a vice-Chair from 2017-2021, he’s not exactly coming from outside the old establishment.
You claim that the “establishment” has changed, but it is the same group of people in charge that have been there for decades. Democratic Socialist candidates are winning despite the DNC doing the bare minimum to help, and the DNC is taking credit for their success just like they always do for whoever wins in the primaries.
Last I checked Hakeem Jeffries was still the House Minority Leader, Leader of the House Democratic Caucus, and Chair of the House Democratic Caucus
Yep, him and Schumer’s leadership elections were in January 2025. Its voters was elected reps, and at the time the current DNC under Jamie Harrison would have bankrupted state parties if their reps didn’t vote neoliberal .
The DNC chair election was feburary 2025.
It’s voted on by the ~420 voting members of the DNC, they pivoted away from neoliberalism, and picked a chair who dumped all the “victory fund” money back on state parties. That was the cudgel neoliberals (specifically Schumer and Jefferies) used to get elected, it’s gone now…
You’re talking about DSCC and DCCC like they’re important, try to go find mentions of anyone giving a fuck about them prior to February 2025.
Neoliberals are pretending those things matter, because they lost the DNC 18 months ago
Democratic Socialist candidates are winning despite the DNC doing the bare minimum to help,
If you think the DNC should help any candidate in a primary, either you don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re the same as a neoliberal just with different policy position.
A bias in the opposite direction is still a problem.
On an equal playingfield progressives will dominate, and have been for the last 18 months you haven’t been paying attention
The DNC chair election was feburary 2025.
I already brought up the current Chair (Ken Martin) in my comment… he was a vice-chair from 2017-2021 previously. He’s NOT new. Moving some funds around to more local races one time makes you think he’s somehow fundamentally different?
You expect people to believe that things in the party fundamentally changed between Schumer and Jeffries being elected to leadership in January, and the DNC chair election in February where a previous vice-Chair got the big seat.
The same dipshits are in charge and you’re apparently fine with it because they threw you a bone, once, recently. Just shows how gullible some Democrats are to simple tricks, just like the entire Republican base.
he was a vice-chair from 2017-2021 previously.
While at the same time being the chair of Minnesota’s state party, and under him it went from purple to solid blue and the home of some of our most progressive representatives especially on the topic of Israel…
I really don’t think you understand what a vice chair does, or that c chair can do anything they want.
I get it, up until 18 months ago I spent 30 years saying the same thing you are today, it was super easy and even tho I paid attention, I didn’t need to, because nothing changed.
But then 18 months ago it changed…
Look around at what’s happened since then.
If I’m right, everything is working as intended
If you’re right, Martin is so incompetent that he might as well be helping progressives. But if you think the voting members of the DNC put him there to oppose progressives, wouldn’t getting rid of him just mean his replacement is better at holding progressives down?
Like, there’s no way any sort of logic works out to back up what you’re doing.
Which is trying to get people tuned out of the Dem party months before one of the most important midterms of your fucking life
Edit:
Nevermind, your already on my blocklist as your account(s) from other instances, and it’s obvious facts and logic haven’t magically started working so I’ll add your new account to the same list your other account(s) are on.
Don’t get too excited. A primary win is only worth the ticket to the election. If they get beaten in the election; something the RNC obviously thinks will happen - then it means little.
Let’s see some election support for a Democrat. Here. Now.
Yeah. That’s what I figured.
Not true, they actively support genocide against the semetic people of Palestine.
So, letting a Socialist run in the primary, and congratulating her win is ‘nothing.’
If by letting her run you mean required by law to allow qualifying candidates to run, then yeah they “let” her run.
The party helped raise and funnel over 16x as much campaign money to another candidate.
Nixon, a tenacious leftwing fighter and former union organizer who has represented Jacksonville in the Florida house since 2020, raised ** $975,000 in her campaign** , as against Vindman’s $16.3m.
A candidate with no Congressional experience, largely because of national name recognition only because they testified against Trump at his impeachment, not because they are the best candidate to represent Floridians.
“The reason that we all collectively thought that he was the favorite was because he had that national name recognition, and especially because he was able to raise so much money,” said Aubrey Jewett, professor of political science at the University of Central Florida.
They put the weight of the party behind a candidate that was appointed to the National Security Council by Trump in 2018. Yeah, Vindman testified at Trump’s impeachment about glaringly obvious treasonous actions that any sane person not blinded by media propaganda has an issue with, but he was still the Trump administration’s pick for the NSC position. And if there’s anything we know about the individuals they tend to pick, it’s because they prioritize loyalty. They’re not always totally right, but that has clearly been their first priority when looking at candidates over any other qualifications.
You seem really intent on losing the elections this year.
But yes, maybe we’ll get a perfect line up in 2028, or 2030…
Jesus, so many Democrats treat elections like a fucking trophy room. We aren’t trying to fucking win here, we’re trying to actually fucking change things and not become a fascist country. Good luck doing that with corporate sponsored assholes who have done and continue to do next to nothing for the people unless they get a permission slip from the moneyed interest.
Got it.
You don’t understand how elections work.
Well then me and the DNC have a lot in common, because they’ve managed to lose against the worst candidate in American history twice.
Democratic party: “Shit, how do we deal with this constant winning?”
It remains to be seen how attractive Nixon will be to Florida’s wider electorate in November. As Jewett notes, Florida is heavily populated by Hispanic communities, and Moody is certain to try to affix the “socialist” label to Nixon’s campaign that has long proven toxic at the ballot box for such voter groups.
. . . Pollsters already appear to have concluded that Nixon’s primary victory has limited Democrats’ chances of taking the seat. Within hours of her fiery victory speech on Tuesday night, Sabato’s Crystal Ball, the respected analytical wing of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics, moved the Florida Senate race from “likely Republican” to “safe Republican”.
. . . Her supporters are certain that will be possible. Among a flood of tributes to her on Tuesday night and through Wednesday were calls for unity, including from Vindman himself, who said: “I will be standing by her side in the fight against Ashley Moody. I hope you’ll join me.”
Yeah, this is just self-destructive. There’s a good reason that the Democratic party tried to prevent it.
The people voting in the primary are the people who would vote for a Democrat in the general… and this is who they chose.
Who we trust more: the people who vote, or the establishment Democratic Party leaders?
Ashley Moody, the Republican candidate, was elected by a 21-point margin last time. If only the people voting in the Democratic primary vote for the Democrat in the general election, the Democrat definitely loses. So yeah, in this case I trust establishment leaders to do what might have won the election. Vindman still probably would have lost, but at least he had a chance.
It’s democracy, not football. Representation matters more than the colour of the shirt on the winner.
If the entire Democrat party shifts to the right, who represents the left? What’s even the point of the Dems winning if they’re just a bunch of MAGAts in blue ties?Vindman wouldn’t have been a MAGA Republican.
Ok. That’s fair. But Vindman is obviously to the right of the Democratic voter base, so he would’ve dragged the party further to the right than the people the Democrats are supposed to represent. That is a problem. And for the past few decades, we’ve seen western democracies drift to the right as a result of this mechanic. Now, we have proto-fascists in high office. That needs to stop.
Elections need to be fair.
This attitude is a cancer to progressive reform. Vote for the candidate with the better policies and you will have progressive reform in this country. “Electability” is literally the only argument liberals have at this point for picking centrists over left flank candidates. If that argument actually had validity: the left flank candidate wouldn’t have won the primary; and the “electable” candidates would have previously won. Is there one centrist dem a majority of people even like?
Is there one centrist dem a majority of people even like?
No it didn’t. They are already planning on how to keep these uppity new Democrats in their place.
The “shockwaves”:
In the Florida legislature, Angie Nixon has led the fight to lower costs for families and take on the rigged system. Now, she’s ready to take that fight to the U.S. Senate.
Congratulations, Angie! Onward to November.
-The DNC chair, literally “the party”
https://bsky.app/profile/kenmartin.bsky.social/post/3mtfjzz6xm22q
Bernie Bros. redux.
Back in the day, the FBI worked hard to split the Anti-War and Civil Rights movements with quiet smear campaigns.
