Damit besagte Personengruppen es vergessen könnten, müssten die es erstmal verstehen. Das würde Bildung erfordern und da wird dann schwierig… Wir haben kein Geld für Bildung. Das haben die Reichen.
It is more that the rich ensured that education focused primarily on the aesthetic horrors of fascism rather than its material origin. The impetus for bonapartist tendencies was never removed so it eventually returned as conditions necessitated. The rich could not admit it was the system they uphold and benefit from that gave rise to fascism without endangering their positions and implicating themselves.
you would be shocked to find out who writes and owns your textbook and course curriculums. Idk what textbooks are like in Europe exactly but american education is effectively propaganda when it comes to historical subjects. Tbh though, whether these things are owned and written by your government or private interests they are influenced by bourgeois politics and the historical perspective it creates. All of our retellings of history are influenced by the dominant ideology of their era.
Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.
What the hell is this coach thing?! No wonder some American schools have a teaching problem 😱, it’s already hard to get good teachers but letting mr run after the ball teach history…
He doesn’t look that young. I can’t imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasn’t as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.
If he’s from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.
Eh, 9/11 was ~25 years ago. And if we assume that a child under the age of, say, 5 wouldn’t be interested in such things and wouldn’t be exposed to it much, especially if not in the US … then someone could feasibly be up to 30 years old right now and have been too young to notice or care when 9/11 happened.
And I don’t know about your age standards … but this guy looks like he could easily be under 30.
I’m very squarely in that age bracket and it was hard to ignore 9/11 if you were at all exposed to any media. I can’t imagine anyone 25-30 managing to entirely ignore 9/11 even without teachers talking about it. Maybe someone with the absolute peak of sheltering could ignore it. But outside of that I can’t imagine anyone in the US 25-30 having no clue.
Yeah, this is definitely wrong. My younger brothers are significantly younger than 35 right now, and they still remember where they were when it happened.
Anyone who is older than 25 existed when the towers fell, which is significantly younger than 35. Whether a kid much younger than 11 can remember where he was when it happened is another question, but the math is correct.
History teachers in grade school seem to be either great or terrible. Nothing in between.
I can see someone born around then or after not understanding the scope of the event. I can think of things that happened when I was born or just a kid where even knowing about it later it just seems like something in a book. You can’t know what a world was like before an event if you weren’t aware of it.
How he escaped ever seeing more about it online is another thing, but then again I see lots of reaction videos, many that are probably legit, of people who never heard or saw things, even if they’ve heard references to it. It’s yet another XKCD Ten Thousand moment.
On a wide side note, I had an amazing Ancient History instructor in college. First day he told us not to bother getting the text for the class, we’re not using it. He took us on an incredible ride.
When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.
If you were to ask my teachers, American history goes revolutionary war, then nothing happens for awhile, then the civil war, then nothing happens for awhile, then WW1 had to happen so that we could have ourselves a WORLD WAR TWO! The four years that make up 9/10ths of American history. And then the Japanese signed the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri and then stuff I-the boomer history teacher-personally remember so it legally can’t be history.
It’s so great that the US single handedly won the only war that ever happened in Asia. Good thing there hasn’t been any major conflict on that side of the world since then.
It’s kinda clear how the curriculum was designed, after all according to this class Japan was only discovered in 1939. Russia pops in an out of existence, Korea and Vietnam are fictional and Africa is where Egypt is.
I feel like it’s a bit unfair to single out America as being the only country who heavily skews their own nations history, or just completely bullshits their impacts on other nations…
Britain aint exactly being very clear about what the East India Trading Company was doing. Or the British Raj for that matter.
Japan still teaches WW2 history in the vaguest of terms without admitting any wrongdoing. Unit 731 is not apart of those lessons.
Not saying any of this is justified, just that nearly every nation does it. Everyone’s the hero of their own story.
Well and going back to my original point, US history class at least for me ended at 1946, when the UN UN-nazi’d the world forever after having defeated Charlie Chaplain. And I think it’s because much after that and the generations that were (and still fucking are god dammit) in control of curricula personally remember those events and thus refuse to label them as “history.” Because my 70 year lifespan is basically now, so if kids these days don’t remember the Tet Offensive that’s they’re own fault, god fuck 'em.
Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, that’s everything I learned in school too at that time.
But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I don’t think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.
Yep. And with each successively later era in history being more and more rushed because the history teacher was always behind schedule and the big standardized tests at the end of the year ate up a lot of time.
And then next year, in the next history class, you start over at Pilgrims again! Only difference is that now there’s a little bit more detail and you’re expected to write an essay about it instead of just answering some multiple choice questions.
i REALLY want to go out there and carefully plan to paint over the first one and change it to LET’S GO BRAND and make it look like dingus ran out of space
He is either not a US American, or the “Never Forget” nation forgot to properly teach him.
I live in one of those “never forget” nations that promised to never forget something… but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.
Hallöchen.
Germany with AfD becoming the largest individual party?
I feel you so much right now.
I guess we are all in the same boat… Errr land.
Wow, you live in Boaterland? Do you know Jimmy on the east side?
My parents were boat mormons, so what do you think? Of course I do know my brother Jimmy… I hate him.
Psssssst…
Damit besagte Personengruppen es vergessen könnten, müssten die es erstmal verstehen. Das würde Bildung erfordern und da wird dann schwierig… Wir haben kein Geld für Bildung. Das haben die Reichen.
It is more that the rich ensured that education focused primarily on the aesthetic horrors of fascism rather than its material origin. The impetus for bonapartist tendencies was never removed so it eventually returned as conditions necessitated. The rich could not admit it was the system they uphold and benefit from that gave rise to fascism without endangering their positions and implicating themselves.
I want to upvote the “aesthetic horrors” but it’s not “the rich”. It’s just human stupidity and laziness in trying to educate children.
you would be shocked to find out who writes and owns your textbook and course curriculums. Idk what textbooks are like in Europe exactly but american education is effectively propaganda when it comes to historical subjects. Tbh though, whether these things are owned and written by your government or private interests they are influenced by bourgeois politics and the historical perspective it creates. All of our retellings of history are influenced by the dominant ideology of their era.
Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.
What the hell is this coach thing?! No wonder some American schools have a teaching problem 😱, it’s already hard to get good teachers but letting mr run after the ball teach history…
Baffled.
see: forgot to properly teach him.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
For that, you’re gonna need a hose.
I’d say they made the attempt, but if he didn’t listen that much, the problem is them passing him, not attempting to teach him.
that is definitely a problem of the US education system. The “no child left behind” policy is absolute garbage.
He doesn’t look that young. I can’t imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasn’t as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.
If he’s from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.
Eh, 9/11 was ~25 years ago. And if we assume that a child under the age of, say, 5 wouldn’t be interested in such things and wouldn’t be exposed to it much, especially if not in the US … then someone could feasibly be up to 30 years old right now and have been too young to notice or care when 9/11 happened.
And I don’t know about your age standards … but this guy looks like he could easily be under 30.
I’m very squarely in that age bracket and it was hard to ignore 9/11 if you were at all exposed to any media. I can’t imagine anyone 25-30 managing to entirely ignore 9/11 even without teachers talking about it. Maybe someone with the absolute peak of sheltering could ignore it. But outside of that I can’t imagine anyone in the US 25-30 having no clue.
i’d say anyone under 35 wasn’t really aware for it.
35 might be an exaggeration, they would have been around 9 years old, old enough to remember something.
Yeah, this is definitely wrong. My younger brothers are significantly younger than 35 right now, and they still remember where they were when it happened.
nonexistent?
2026-2001=25
36-25=11
11>0
🙄 Your math is bad. Read what they said closer
Anyone who is older than 25 existed when the towers fell, which is significantly younger than 35. Whether a kid much younger than 11 can remember where he was when it happened is another question, but the math is correct.
Ooh can confirm: Our coach taught us that nazi germany was communist and north korea killed more people than any civilization in history.
That’s so stupid. Everybody knows that Nazi Germany was socialist!
Some people believe in anything…
History teachers in grade school seem to be either great or terrible. Nothing in between.
I can see someone born around then or after not understanding the scope of the event. I can think of things that happened when I was born or just a kid where even knowing about it later it just seems like something in a book. You can’t know what a world was like before an event if you weren’t aware of it.
How he escaped ever seeing more about it online is another thing, but then again I see lots of reaction videos, many that are probably legit, of people who never heard or saw things, even if they’ve heard references to it. It’s yet another XKCD Ten Thousand moment.
On a wide side note, I had an amazing Ancient History instructor in college. First day he told us not to bother getting the text for the class, we’re not using it. He took us on an incredible ride.
When I was in school all the coaches taught physical education
Fuck you, I’m not old!
When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.
If you were to ask my teachers, American history goes revolutionary war, then nothing happens for awhile, then the civil war, then nothing happens for awhile, then WW1 had to happen so that we could have ourselves a WORLD WAR TWO! The four years that make up 9/10ths of American history. And then the Japanese signed the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri and then stuff I-the boomer history teacher-personally remember so it legally can’t be history.
It’s so great that the US single handedly won the only war that ever happened in Asia. Good thing there hasn’t been any major conflict on that side of the world since then.
It’s kinda clear how the curriculum was designed, after all according to this class Japan was only discovered in 1939. Russia pops in an out of existence, Korea and Vietnam are fictional and Africa is where Egypt is.
I feel like it’s a bit unfair to single out America as being the only country who heavily skews their own nations history, or just completely bullshits their impacts on other nations…
Britain aint exactly being very clear about what the East India Trading Company was doing. Or the British Raj for that matter.
Japan still teaches WW2 history in the vaguest of terms without admitting any wrongdoing. Unit 731 is not apart of those lessons.
Not saying any of this is justified, just that nearly every nation does it. Everyone’s the hero of their own story.
Well and going back to my original point, US history class at least for me ended at 1946, when the UN UN-nazi’d the world forever after having defeated Charlie Chaplain. And I think it’s because much after that and the generations that were (and still fucking are god dammit) in control of curricula personally remember those events and thus refuse to label them as “history.” Because my 70 year lifespan is basically now, so if kids these days don’t remember the Tet Offensive that’s they’re own fault, god fuck 'em.
Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, that’s everything I learned in school too at that time.
But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I don’t think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.
Oh yeah. I was in high school when 9/11 happened.
My son asked me if I learned about 9/11 in school … and I was like uh yes, in a way.
(I was sitting in my psych class watching it happen live)
Yep. And with each successively later era in history being more and more rushed because the history teacher was always behind schedule and the big standardized tests at the end of the year ate up a lot of time.
And then next year, in the next history class, you start over at Pilgrims again! Only difference is that now there’s a little bit more detail and you’re expected to write an essay about it instead of just answering some multiple choice questions.
o no I 💀 forgor 🗿
Homeschooled…
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But I thought they didn’t like “woke” stuff?
i REALLY want to go out there and carefully plan to paint over the first one and change it to LET’S GO BRAND and make it look like dingus ran out of space
Well, the number of people talking about the 3 planes getting hijacked on another thread makes me think we’ve forgotten at least a little bit.
Many people are just alien tourists