• Piatro@programming.dev
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    1 天前

    Man criticises someone for kicking a guy in the head while he’s on the ground and restrained. People don’t like this. What? Genuinely don’t know what all the fuss is about but then I’m not following mainstream news much anymore so I must be missing something.

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      Have the press only being covering his comments and not showing the footage? Easy way to tip the outrage seesaw when the victim is accused of being guilty of something worse. Doesnt help hes of colour.

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      The guy had just stabbed two men with a knife. When the police used a tazer on him to get him on the ground and apparently kicked him, when he did not want to drop something, he was holding in his hand. They also had another guy controlled on the ground with a rucksack. So you know might have been a bomb or something. Also the guy who was kicked was not restrained at all. That was visible in the video and Polanski was just plain and simply wrong about that.

      • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
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        I can imagine the tazing the man does not help with his muscles being able to release the knife. Repeatedly kicking him in the head also does not seem like the way cops are trained to get someone to drop a weapon.

        Here is the video for those who have not seen it https://streamable.com/e/jabdsn

        • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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          This bodycam one is a bit longer, which I believe helps a bit:

          https://www.reddit.com/r/AskBrits/comments/1t0p591/bodycam_footage_released_of_the_golders_green/

          You can see that he first refuses to go to the ground. They then taze him and he falls on his back, but then turns over to seemingly protect the knife. You can tell in your video as well as in this one, that it least one of the policemen tries to turn him over first. So he is not trying to cooperate with the police at all, let alone freely drop the weapon and is able to move at least somewhat(he clearly turned himself over after all).

          They probably should have called a third policemen at that point to turn him over, as having a third person clearly worked. They seem to also have stopped kicking his head, once they got the knife and him properly handcuffed.

          Still given the situation, that was somewhat decent. In many countries, he would have been killed by the police in that situation.

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            “He turns over to seemingly protect the knife.” Oh where did you find his thoughts to know he was trying to protect the knife?

            “So he is not trying to cooperate with the police at all, let alone freely drop the weapon” well if he just got tazed he wouldn’t be able to cooperate with anybody. Do you even know what happens to your muscles when an electrical current passes through them??

            Fucking pig apologist.

          • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
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            20 小时前

            The bodycam footage does not show the cop kicking his face very well and honestly the POV footage might be worse.

            Most of the comments on Reddit are praising the cops for not instantly drawing their gun and executing a black man because America is apparently now the gold standard for policing. The “terrorist attack” angle is being mentioned as justification as well but that was concluded false. It was a mentally ill man who was released from a mental ward a few days earlier.

            In the end a lot of the conclusions are being done in hindsight and used to justify attacking Zack Polanski. Zack called out what initially seemed a pretty egrigious use of force against the mentally ill man and probably still is. I think it is good someone tried to question whether the cops kicking the man in the face multiple time in a life-threatening way was actually an effective way to arrest him.

            Also are the cops tasering the man after they put the cuffs on or what is that sound?

          • mrdown@lemmy.world
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            Even with this video. The multiple punches in the face was beyond the minimum necessary force police is required to use

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              24 小时前

              What is the minimum necessary force for tackling someone with a knife and possibly a bomb?

              There are certainly arguments to be had but seeing him react in near real-time before all the facts are clear says something about his priorities.

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                21 小时前

                You don’t shoot thousands of volts into somebody who might have a bomb.

      • Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app
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        A long way of saying:

        Man criticises someone for kicking a guy in the head while he’s on the ground and restrained. I don’t like this.

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        3 persons was stabbed but because the 3rd one is a Muslims, Islamophobic did not bother to mention that detail.

        The video shows the man being kicked in the head after being restrained stop making apologia for the law enforcers. It reminds me of the German fascist police punching an unarmed women in the face and many people justified it by saying we don’t know the context.

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    1 天前

    The antisemitic cartoons in 4 newspapers have been appalling. The press has been an absolute disgrace in this election.

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      The press has been an absolute disgrace in EVERY election. You only need to look at who owns most of the press to see why.

  • HelloThere@sh.itjust.works
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    Exactly as we saw with Corbyn.

    Yes, the media is biased and serving the interests of their owners.

    As a political group we bang on and on about material conditions, but we sure do love to pretend that we’re operating on a fair and level playing field, and then feign surprise and outrage.

    Is it fair that anyone to the left of Ghenis Khan is pilloried? No, of course it isn’t. But it frustrates me beyond belief that we refuse to learn that lesson.

    We need to get past this idea that any individual is bigger than the movement. Like Corbyn before him, Polanski is both being unfairly targeted, and also giving easy hits by having said demonstrably dumb and/or false stuff.

    Remember, this is the same media who crucified Ed Miliband, the atheist son of Jewish parents, over looking weird in a single photo while eating a bacon sandwich. And the same media who were beside themselves at Starmer (foolishly) accepting clothes and glasses, and yet are very quiet about Farage’s £5m bung.

    The deck is stacked against us. We have to stop pretending it isn’t, and a big part of that is ruthlessly binning prominent people who make dumb mistakes. That’s sure as fuck unreasonable and unfair, but the alternative is continuing to damage progress.

    It also means that when we are in power, we resist the urge to claw the fuck out of each other and be divided, which only benefits those with entrenched power and privilege.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Those billionaire owned media companies are quite powerful at social engineering.

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    Vote’s today, isn’t it? The Epstein class is scared. They don’t want to distribute their wealth.

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      I wonder how all the other countries without nuclear weapons of mass destruction cope? Glad to live in the UK where we can kill millions at the push of a button.

    • Piatro@programming.dev
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      You mean the nukes that we aren’t allowed to fire without US approval? That we have to send something like a billion per year to the US to get serviced and as a result aren’t even available to fire sometimes? Sorry but it seems very unlikely that trident is offering any kind of protection for us.

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        Each missile costs up to £5 million to maintain per year. Think of all those arm manufacturers bonuses at risk if everyone had your attitude.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
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      Giving up nukes sounds bad but is that single policy why you would rather vote for all other Labour policies?

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    We’ll see if it is once the election results are in. If the Green vote collapses, it is. If the Greens end up taking councils from Labour, maybe not.

  • Alex@lemmy.ml
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    He’s making it easy by saying or doing stupid things.

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        I think Labour and Reform are also being crap here. However Zack has been riding the protest vote wave and as he gains popularity he gets more scrutiny. You might say it’s all the biased media’s fault but a politician complaining about scrutiny is a poor look.

        He certainly spends a lot of time on social media happily clicking away. He should spend more time learning the basics of economics so he doesn’t complain about being ambushed on understanding the debt and the deficit.