The Democratic votes on the pair of resolutions from Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., were not enough to overcome universal opposition from Republicans.
Still, the votes represented a watershed moment in the party’s relationship with Israel and the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Israel had continued to enjoy strong support from Democratic leaders, despite outrage from the base over the war on Gaza. Sanders said the votes signaled that party leaders are finally taking note.
“This is where the American people are. The polls are very clear: The overwhelming majority of American people do not want to continue to give weapons to Netanyahu and his horrific wars in the Mideast,” he said. “I think the Democrats have caught on to that. It took a little while, but they caught on to that. But Republicans, I think, are standing in opposition to millions of their own supporters.”
Schumer (D-Tel Aviv) voted against.
And yet the Dems are leaving him as leader?
Just a few years too late.
Best time to cut ties with Israel was 20 years ago.
Second best time is now
I didn’t disagree.
Meaningless posturing because they knew it wouldn’t win. Wake me up when they have a majority and actually do something with it.
It’s not meaningless. It’s saying “if you vote for us, we will make this happen”.
If you don’t fail to pass laws/resolutions because you’re the minority, you won’t win votes over.
That would be sound reasoning if they ever fucking did anything like this when they had a majority
If the Ds had enough votes to block passage, magically, just one would vote against.
We need a country to bribe our reps more than Israel does, this is the only way. Oops, I mean donate.
China, you’re our only hope.
We need a country to bribe our reps more than Israel does
It’s a circular scheme. Money we spend arming Israel goes to their weapons manufacturers. Their MIC collects a profit, which is milled back into campaign donations to US Congresscritters. Congresscritters take the money and rubber stamp more tax-dollars to Israel, to buy more weapons, to generate more profit, to bribe more of Congress.
China, you’re our only hope.
President Xi, please liberate our people.
lol imagine if we achieve the death of US imperialism and the dawn of global communism simply by bribing the politicians more than the capitalists do.
Why do you want a foreign country to interfere on your country’s affairs?
We need that ACPAC money
This idea that China is somehow going to save you or the world is brain death.
Xi loves what Trump is doing. Why would he risk stabilizing the U.S. when he could just not and continue to madly profit?
Also are you Han Chinese? Because if not, see my first point.
I don’t think Xi Jinping loves when Trump puts 1quadrillion% tariffs on China.
Democrats: against every war but the current war.
Are Democrats feeling the Bern at last?
Imagine if you will - a world where we would have had Bernie instead of Sweet Potato Hitler V1.
Never forget kids: The rich are the true and only enemy.
It was safe to vote in order to appease the voters without actually doing anything because they knew the Republicans would shut it down.
If the vote were closer and couldn’t survive Democratic unanimity, just enough of the rotating selection would oppose it to keep it from passing while the rest saved face.
They may think of it like appeasement
But this is only the beginning of the anti-zionist snowball
I desperately hope you’re right, but I suspect this is naïvely optimistic.
The Democratic Party has shown time and time again that they are willing to vote in line with the people if and only if their vote doesn’t change the outcome.
I’ll believe their votes on Israel mean anything when their votes – well – mean anything for the result.
Hey Dems, this is the kind of hings we want. Keep it up. Do actual healthcare and debt reduction next!
Future: Sorry, even though there are 55 Democratic senators now, six of them won’t vote for it because of inscrutable reasons and there’s just nothing we can do!
And apologists wonder why we don’t like the Dem neo-libs.
Does this mean the tankies are actually going to vote in the midterms?
Or are they just going to have a harder time coming up with excuses why Democrats are so bad that it’s better just to let Republicans hold onto power?
Does this mean the tankies are actually going to vote in the midterms?
No. Since we hold all the cards and the democrats can’t win without us. We’re waiting on every conservative democrat to apologize to us for their support of a genocide before we let the democrats hold office again.
If you really support the democrats you should be groveling for forgiveness in your response. If you refuse, I’ll be bringing that up at the next tankie meeting.
I’ve got nothing to grovel for your forgiveness for. Not sure if you’re serious about the tankie meeting thing, but that’s a lame-ass thing to say, and I really don’t give a shit if you all decide to waste your time complaining about some random lemming who has the gall to remind you that letting republicans win to spite the democrats is fucking idiotic.
We’re waiting on every conservative democrat to apologize to us for their support of a genocide before we let the democrats hold office again.
Maybe if you would vote in the fucking primaries then you could replace more conservative democrats with progressives. Maybe if you would vote at all then democrats would court the left-wing voting bloc more instead of considering it a lost cause and courting the center/right. But abstaining from the political process and then complaining when you don’t get your way and blaming everyone else is asinine.
Yeah that presidential primary last election rocked, can’t wait for the next one.
Man I remember when Bernie was in the primaries. It was totally normal and he didn’t win for totally normal reasons in spite of the very cool democratic party supporting him.
There wasn’t one last election. Sure, that sucks and it was wrong, but that’s no reason not to vote in this one. That’s terrible logic.
And sure, the DNC fucked Bernie and that sucked and was wrong too. But again, that’s no reason not to vote in this year’s primaries, especially for congressional, state, and local positions (which can help turn the tide at the DNC).
I never said the democratic party is cool or moral or anything like that. I said the republican party is worth opposing, even if we have to hold our noses to do so.
Arguments like yours helped maga get back into power, and are helping them stay in power.
Arguments like yours helped maga get back into power, and are helping them stay in power.
I was with you until that line. The democrats are responsible for being unpopular, not tankies.
Both things can be true. The DNC could court progressives instead of centrists and “moderate republicans.” They don’t, and that’s on them. (But again, that’s no reason why leftists shouldn’t participate and try to steer the DNC towards the left).
At the same time, the US has a two-party, FPTP system. It’s fundamentally broken and we can’t expect it to give us perfect candidates. The electoral system itself needs to be drastically reformed before it can truly serve the people’s interests rather than the elites, and encourage quality candidates rather than bombastic mudslingers.
In the meantime, leftists shouldn’t abandon pragmatism. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and take a harm-reduction approach. Sometimes you can bargain for incremental progress, and absolutely should whenever the opportunity presents itself, but that’s not always the case.
But this idea that “I won’t settle for anything less than perfect” is really defeatist in addition to being idealistic, and not the mentality we should embrace. It leads to burnout and nihilism, not progress.
But this idea that “I won’t settle for anything less than perfect” is really defeatist
We have all interacted with tankies that act like that, but they were never going to vote anyways. For everyone else, not supporting a genocide is not asking for perfection. Characterizing it as such is only going to push those voters towards the tankies.
