Once I was prescribed low-dose antipsychotics to help me fall asleep. They made me energetic, productive, I actually started enjoying life. Then my dr said it wasn’t supposed to happen so cut them off.
I mean, what if the better quality sleep was causing those effects? That does seem unfortunate you had to stop using something making you feel better. I wonder if there was a different, more dangerous side effect they were worried about.
“euphoria” was among possible side effects. I guess the worry was it was getting me high.
Oh fuck that. I would get a second opinion. At least now you know to underplay it. “I think it’s working, yes. Sleeping better and feeling a little better, no side effects that are bothersome, this one seems good, thanks.”
Oh no, they shouldn’t make you feel too good!
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Sometimes antidepressants can unmask bipolar disorder and cause manic episodes but I’ve never heard of anything similar with antipsychotics. In fact they’re often used as sedatives as OP alluded to.
I’d find a new doctor and tell them what was working for you
Doctor was like, I am sorry but you are not supposed to enjoy life.
uh thats stupid? what even was the logic?
The underlying reason is that someone who has a dramatic shift to either extreme often comes with negative behaviors. Bipolar mania for example could result in blowing through money or seeking pleasure outside a relationship and a bunch of other stuff with negative outcomes.
I would hope their decision making was more nuanced than basic correlation.
You don’t have to blindly accept what the doctor is saying, challenge them. It is after all your body and your life
LOL have you ever challenged a doctor? Expect more empathy from ICE.
Most doctors I’ve spoken to have been quite happy to work with me rather than against me.
The unfortunate trick is you need to self educate to speak a bit more in their language. You also need to accept they are often working within rules that are unintuitive.
E.g. I prefer a particular brand drug Vs the generics. (The delivery method was slightly different) I had to cycle through the generics so they could tick them off in the system. Otherwise it would try to automatically shift me to a generic.
You’re adorable.
I’m guessing you just mouth off at doctors, and so get treated like an idiot.
Guess again! I hope you never have to deal with what I deal with, but in a way I do. Suffering is a great teacher.
If you smell dog shit, check the ground. If you constantly smell dog shit, check your shoe.
Most doctors are trying to help as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. 80-90% are fine to work with you, within their workflow. If every doctor you encounter is in the 10% then either you’re VERY unlucky, or you are the problem element.
You’re pathetic
You’re a psychopath. An excellent candidate for medical school. Did you apply?
Doctors are the last people who care about you. They have procedures they memorized and their job is to fill out forms and push you along the system.
Lots of medications have positive side effects, depending on the patient. I once got prescribed antidepressants specifically for their sleep-inducing effect (I did also have depression, but many antidepressants don’t make you drowsy). Paracetamol is a painkiller and also lowers fever. etc.
Side effects may include becoming a charismatic sex machine.
Not as extreme, but Viagra was created to treat pulmonary hypertension and treating erectile dysfunction was a side effect.
And don’t get me started on zoloft… At some point “stamina” becomes Sisyphean flesh slapping.
Sisyphean flesh slapping
I prefer to call it being an ace in the hole, but now I’m just projecting
That was prozac for me. My sex drive was fine, my bits responded as they should, but I couldn’t finish at all. I told my psychiatrist I’d rather be unmedicated than deal with that bullshit again lol
Because when they do it generally becomes one of the advertised effects. Lots of drugs were originally for something else but were later found to be useful for other things.
Wasn’t that the case with Ozempic? It was meant for diabetes patients first but then they noted the effect in reduced hunger and many other positive improvements which its why it has become as popular as it has
Same with Viagra. It’s actually a heart medication. It just happened to give guys boners.
It’s cuz they have so much love in their hearts now.
Technically doesn’t give you a boner but inhibits the hormone that makes it harder to get a boner (e.g during your refractory period)
To get a boner you still need stimulation, physical or mental.
Why do I know this? My last relationship was very abusive and stressful. Even boner pills didn’t help much. When I got out of it, things started working again. The pills work best when you actually want to have sex with your partner, but still have issues.
No, it has side effects, it’s popular because the public yearns for a diet pill that works and are willing to deal with the side effects
Oh, there are quite some. Just from the top of my heaf: Viagra originally was just a heart medication. Metformin, a diabetes 2 medication, is strongly suspected of having other positive side effects, like generally prolonging life. There recently was an article about a new Alzheimer medication which would be quick to the market as such because it is already a certified medication against something else.
I lost a bit of weight when I went on ADHD meds
Speed is fucking awesome, it makes me feel like a productive citizen.
Why are all these dishes in the sink ? That’s crazy! Let me clean this counter up ,it’ll only take 11 minutes then Im going to pay all my bills on time. Wow that was easy , now I won’t worry about all that crap and I’ll probably sleep like a baby tonight. I’m going to read a book for a little while then go to sleep
I think part of it is also that occasional positive side effects are not something drug companies can advertise. They’re legally obligated to talk about the negative ones.
But are they legally not allowed to talk about positive side effects?
They want to keep those under wraps so that they can repackage the drug, label it specifically for those effects, and mark it up another 5000%.
Nope, just “tar” like stool and heart palpitations
Finasteride was designed to treat prostate cancer but it helps with male pattern baldness.
Medicine used to have those kind of side effects. It was called cocaine.
Or laudanum
So like, my best MD I ever had, he said “you’re got symptoms A, B, and C, right? Well doctors like to treat it with G, but pill H has main effect B and side effects A and C. Only problem is doctors hate prescribing it. Let’s try it!”
I miss that guy.
Bit of a toss up, but wasn’t the original purpose of Viagra to treat cardiovascular issues; Side effects: extending sex lives for many partners I suppose.
Wasn’t Ozempic, gpl-1 antagonist, supposed to help type 2 diabetes manage their sugar fluctuations yet had the positive side effect of lowering their appetite and now is basically being pivoted as a revolutionary weightloss drug
So the ones with real “feel good” side effects are the ones that people have addiction problems with, and instead of indirectly giving pleasure, they give it directly. Some people enjoy while they use them and move on with life, others become obsessed with that pleasure and throw everything else away in the pusuit of it.
Viagra was originally for heart complications right?
Blood pressure, I think.
Pulmonary hypertension
Making everything taste like chocolate cake for a week would be a great way to make sure you never want to eat chocolate cake again.
They do, but they’re legally required to tell you all of the bad effects and it’s rare for the positive effects to have any importance outside the intended effects for the medication to treat a serious disease warranting the risks.
On occasion those “positive side effects” become the primary effect the drug is prescribed for.
Most famously, Viagra was not created to be a male sexual aid.
What? Like heart medicine making your erections last longer? Preposterous!
Entropy. There’s only a few ways for things to go right and countless ways for things to go wrong. Therefore, the probability of an undesirable outcome is far higher than any desirable outcome.
