Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.

Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.

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    The blue billionaires will save us bro trust me bro. Just wait to the midterms bro one more millionaire Democrat in power and we defeat facism trust time bro.

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    The voters handed the dems huge gains during the shutdown election, there’s no clearer way they could have signaled we were behind them, and yet they betray us.

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      It seems to me that this might have been a strategic move to get the best result out of the midterms. The Republicans have shown their true colors. Trump throwing lavish parties while conducting a legal battle in the supreme court to ensure that millions of Americans are denied the food aid that was specifically put aside for that purpose, is about as much political capital as you could hope to gain from this. But why is it so important to Trump, to see Americans starve? I believe the reason is that starvation is what you need to instigate a violent insurrection, and that’s Trump’s plan for staying in power indefinitely. He will declare a state of emergency, martial law, suspend the midterms until the present crisis is dealt with, etc. The Dems caving in denies him the chance to do this, while still showing the maga party for the evil bastards they are. And maybe we get to see the Epstein files now? I could be giving establishment Dems more benefit of the doubt than they deserve, but that’s how it looks to me.

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    Of course he knew about it, and his career should be over. They held out all that time, so they could get a massive midterm victory, just to completely surrender all their new political capital, in exchange for literally nothing.

    While American citizens see the modterm election as a victory, Democrats don’t really see it that way. That was a Progressive victory, and the Dems look at it as almost as big a loss as the MAGAs do. They weren’t about to keep holding out, and giving the Socialists another victory to run on 2028.

    If AOC primaried him, she would destroy him.

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      I agree with everything you said except for calling this a midterm election. Midterms are next year, and primaries are ramping up, so NOW is the time for everybody to start researching and supporting ideal candidates so that you can have a shot at being proud of your vote at the general election.

      Fun fact: of the eight non-Republicans to cave, exactly ZERO of them are up for reelection in 2026. To be clear, 2 of them have terms ending at the start of 2027, but they’re both retiring and therefore not running. Nobody will remember this in 3 years, so they’re suffering exactly zero consequences for this sellout.

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        Senators up for re-election will remember if we do the following:

        1. If you have a dem senator, write to them and tell them that the leadership is out of touch with the demands of the moment
        2. If the blue incumbent in your state is retiring in 2026, run a progressive. Use this moment to draw real separation between the progressive and the establishment candidate. Make any contact between them and the democratic leadership toxic
        3. If the blue incumbent hasn’t condemned this and the democratic leadership, do the same as above.

        Democrats up for reelection in 2026

        • Colorado: John Hickenlooper
        • Delaware: Chris Coons
        • Georgia: Jon Ossoff
        • Illinois: Dick Durbin (Retiring)
        • Massachusetts: Ed Markey
        • Michigan: Gary Peters (Retiring)
        • Minnesota: Tina Smith (Retiring)
        • New Hampshire: Jeanne Shaheen (Retiring)
        • New Jersey: Cory Booker (Chair of Strategic Communications Committee)
        • New Mexico: Ben Ray Lujan
        • Oregon: Jeff Merkley
        • Rhode Island: Jack Reed
        • Virginia: Mark Warner

        Flipping the senate in 2026 seems unlikely, but transforming the democratic party must start now. Schumer is up for re-election in 2028, but he has to be removed from leadership now.

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    Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

    So she was bragging to Fox on her and her co-collaborators conservative bonafides.

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        Wrong way to look at it.

        Democrats and republicans share the same donors. They may individually have different goals in mind, but their donors appeal to both sides to preserve a guaranteed outcome and to preserve the image of choice and opposition.

        Really though what we have is anyone who wants to make a fast dime and has the gift of gab throwing themselves into the ring to try to get some of that sweet, sweet donor bribery.

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        The possibility of infiltrators is meaningless when the Democrats are themselves a pro-capitalist neoliberal party. Their fundamental class interests do not allow them to make reform that is beneficial to the working class. This is why whenever the Dems are in power they either outright refuse to do anything meaningful, or the reforms they do pass are so convoluted and means-tested-to-hell that they end up making things worse in some way.

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          You lost me when you called Dems neoliberal.

          There are like 3 neoliberal democrats.

          Democrats are mostly modern liberals.

          Republicans are classical liberals and neoliberals.

          Would it really hurt you to learn the definition of a few words? Reagan was the US neoliberal movement.

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              Sure if you are a Marxist Leninist.

              Clinton embraced some neoliberal policy. Obama was not a neoliberal and tells me you don’t understand what neoliberal means. Biden was the most progressive president we have ever had lol. (Since FDR.)

              But sure “neoliberal.”

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                Neoliberals believe in the de-regulation of capital, which has been the outcome of every president since Reagan, regardless of the words they use to win elections.

                And Biden was progressive? Lol you really have no idea what words mean.

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    Billionaires are desperate to turn people away from the Dem party, because they can’t buy the next Dem presidential primary.

    You’re pissed at Schumer? Good, he’s a giant ineffectual piece of shit

    But now that he doesn’t have a corrupt DNC behind him, his days in office are numbered. So are the rest of the neoliberals and especially the ones who voted with republicans.

    Don’t blame the party for what single digit number of assholes did. And definitely don’t leave the party by refusing to vote in Dem primaries.

    Even if there’s nothing that could ever make you vote D in the general again, vote in every D primary and pull them left as hard as you can.

    The only way neoliberals get the DNC back, is if people don’t vote in the next Dem presidential primary, a neoliberal squeaks thru, and if they become president, they name a neoliberal chair.

    And neoliberals aren’t above sabotaging the Dem party to get the reins back.

    It like the buy/sell ads for gold…

    When billionaire owned media shits on the Dem party, it means the DNC is against billionaires.

    When billionaire owned media supports the Dem party, it’s because they own it

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      Its not single digit. If 8 guys sold out there are way more behind them.

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      THE DNC DOES NOT WANT TO OPPOSE THE GOP

      Otherwise they would have their canidates oppose them in a meaningful way. They wouldn’t support right wing ideologies.

      ffs

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    Remember everyone. Moderate Democrats in USA are Center-Right in World Politics. They might as well be 2 sides of the same coin

    If you are a voter who wants real change put in progressives, or indpendents that actually lean left in World politics

    Run For Something trains progressive candidates to run and win. Couple days ago they won big for various elections when we had that very good day

    They also have on Substack: RFS Feel Good which gives weekly updates about everything they have accomplished in & out of office

    Volunteer to help more candidates & current officials to get things done!!

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    There is no hope left. The only cure for the corruption is to cut it out. Guillotines make for an excellent blade for excision.

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      Part of the reason there is no hope is comments like these.

      You aren’t going to do that, so stop focusing on fictional power fantasies.

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        As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress? Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us? We all voted for Bernie in 2016. We’re all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?

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          A progressive revolution by force isn’t going to work if you don’t have a progressive majority. If you’re waging a civil war, it’s a toss up who will win. But if you do have a majority, you can also just vote more progressives into power.

          Either way, you’re going to have to convince a lot of people to join your side. That’s the first step: awareness, protests. And the recent election victories show that it’s working. Keep building this so you win all the seats in the midterms.

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          As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress?

          These aren’t fantasies. They’re at least plausible.

          Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us?

          Beliefs that any one person can save you are part of the problem.

          We all voted for Bernie in 2016.

          Yeah, and you keep voting for progressive elements within the only party that is even possible to shift towards that element until you’ve taken them over. It takes a shit ton of time, is unfun, and wont get you anything near instant results, but its the cards you’re dealt. You deal with them or don’t.

          We’re all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?

          Discouraging people from doing anything is the opposite of helpful though, and encouraging people is something you can do. That along with participating in more than just federal politics.

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            I still can’t get used to being quote replied. It’s weird. Feels like being dissected.

            Anyways. History doesn’t show substantial victory in voting. Voting keeps a citizen government moving policies around slowly. Unfortunately our current system is anything but by the people It’s chaos, uncertain, and most definitely untenable to people. This is a government of blue corporates who want a president with decorum to make deals with the world, and red oligarchs who thrive on the chaos, privatization, and a rauntier economy. Unfortunately the past 10 years the oligarchs have won. No 4 year Biden presidency is going to fix what the country has become. Not a 2 term social democratic administration can fix this without absolutely dismantling what the country has become. And unfortunately that is going to be violent.

            Aristotle wrote when the oligarchal system is created with the inequities we see now, the only two choices are tyranny or revolution.

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              Even in your comment you point out it won’t be fixed in one term as if that’s the expectation, but that’s what I’m talking about here. It was never going to be 1, 2 or even 3 terms. Its a long, slow process.

              When people don’t see immediate rapid change and give up, instead waiting for it to get so bad, it gets even worse (fictional revolution thinking), this just makes the system as it is more entrenched. They’ll happily keep you at bay.

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                I’m trying to tell you there’s no slow process change out of this administration. Neither party cares for the people at large and neither will give up power without revolutionary thinking. Even if a Biden like presidency and administration runs for the next 12 years the American people will not be better off. And unfortunately the alternative that is needed for the people isn’t one that has a foot in the door to even start the slow process rolling. Look at Mamdani. The backlash is heavy and he hasn’t even started.

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                  I’m trying to tell you there’s no slow process change out of this administration.

                  You better hope there is, because you certainly aren’t going to be participating in any fast “you first” ones.

                  There is a slim chance that people who spend more time ensuring democrats don’t get votes, bitching about them while complaining there is a solution, stopped doing that and democrats won in 2026 with sufficient margins to withstand all the bullshit levied at it.

                  This would of course involve things like prop 50 being in place (which passed), and thats all increasingly looking like hail mary too, all because yall wont accept anything except a perfect hail mary, which will never come.

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    At best this is a massive gamble with the absolute last of the dregs of goodwill anyone left of center has for th democratic party. I’m predicting a lot of frustration -signalling throwing of hands in the air and performative filibusters in Shumer’s future, and not much else.

    New York Democrats: primary this piece of shit and get him out of the Senate. I don’t care if his gamble pays off, he shouldn’t be gambling with the future of our country against convicted fraudsters.

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      I wrote both of my Dem senators asking them, begging them, to hold elections on leadership. I’ve written Schumer’s office several times, begging him to step down and get the hell out of the way. I know it doesn’t do much (especially Schumer, as I’m not a constituent), if anything, but other than my vote, I have no leverage.