- cross-posted to:
- android@lemdro.id
- cross-posted to:
- android@lemdro.id
I was searching for YouTube clients on my KDE Plasma Bigscreen GNU/Linux TV box, and found NewPipe, a popular Android YouTube frontend. Turns out this tool is how they moved it over.
Great solution alongside projects like Waydroid, as you can post individual apps to Flathub or other Linux storefronts, rather than needing to install a whole ROM to get your Android apps to appear in your Linux app tray.
It doesn’t work like Wine, but I suppose the goal one day is to be able to click .APK files to install like you can with .EXE files with Wine. Currently developers need to integrate it for their (or their favourite open source) apps to install on Linux.
Just to point out a potential misunderstanding: NewPipe devs did not use ATL to move it over, the developers of ATL chose NewPipe as the first app and extend the tool around getting more features of NewPipe to work
Linux mobile is the way Lets goo.
With Google attempting to further lockdown Android, the time is ripe for Linux Mobile. Projects like this can help make it a viable alternative.
Thank you so much to everyone working on this!
It’s really more like the Android apocalypse is looming. We have 11 months and some change before android phones get locked down like Apple.
I’m afraid with how insecure mobile networks are, modem manufacturers will never dare to open or document their mobile drivers to Linux. And we’ll continue to be stuck in this perfectly controlled and planned scenario.
Ideally, the cellular modem just looks like a network device and usb sound card to the OS. Jail it as much as possible.
Yeah…but in reality those things usually run their own CPU and firmware, which is undocumented, and you won’t catch a manufacturer dead releasing any documentation about it. This is a major roadblock.
Fairphone devs push their drivers to the mainline linux kernel.
Was just gonna say this. I’m currently using GrapheneOS and am concerned about how long my pixel 8a will last with Google being such assholes. But if this app can solve the issue of not having android, then I’d definitely switch to a Linux phone (with further research of course).
Graphene is working with a major phone Maker and will be releasing a Graphene compatible phone in 1-2 years
Source? Just wondering if this is from an official announcement or rumors
Is it One+? They already did it once before with CyanogenMOD.
I’ve heard, which would be mega awesome when it does come out. Maybe I wouldn’t have to fight RCS so hard lol. Unfortunately this Pixel 8a I used is only a year old, so getting a new phone in 1-2 years seems like a waste. But if Google goes nuclear in a few years, it’s either Graphene hardware, Linux phone, or dummy…
I refuse to go back to Apple, and I didn’t come to GrapheneOS just to go back to stock Android.
I’m on a pixel 8 with GrpaheneOS and was hoping not to have to worry until 2027 or whenever the updates end. I would hope the devs at least consider a few years of updates for pixels after they release a me wphone but I guess time will tell.
I’m hoping the camera is at least on par with the pixels. I don’t take many photos but when I do I’d like to maximize quality
You should be fine on gOS for 6 yrs+, which is how long google promised to keep up with security updates. The device tree (think hardware drivers), which is what google removed with pixel 10 is what is causing grief, is already there for lower pixels. Unless, of course, google comes up with some new fuckery to invalidate the usability of the security updates (pray I don’t alter the deal further…)
It would likely increase adoption of the OS on people’s computers too.
I would so love to have my phone and laptop run the same operating system. Would simplify so many things.
I’ve been following this since the initial Newpipe Linux flatpak release. I find it more exciting than Waydroid even though Waydroid is way more functional today
This would be a game changer, like how Steam brought games to Linux, that could bring mobile apps to Linux.
I wish Linux mobile becomes a real option soon
Steam could make this happen faster if more of their user base requested the ability to play (x86 compatible) Android games on their Deck.
The Android dev kit includes a copy of QEMU that’s set up to emulate ARM with a selection of popular screen sizes and revisions of the OS, so that you can test your app on a variety of ‘potential phones’ before you upload it to the marketplace. Snapdragons are amazingly performant CPUs for how gently they sip at the battery, but they’re not that strong in the big scheme of things - any random x86 processor should be able to emulate them while using fifty times the power. A Steam deck ought to be able to do it; the request will then be ‘we’d like to play Android games better’, which to me is a much more reasonable ask.
I enjoy learning about this topic - I’m kinda tired of iOS/android os.
This is the way.
Oh dang this might be just what i need !
what about waydroid? I’m thinking of installing chimera linux with phosh as a de, and for the apps I was thinking mostly linux programs and maybe some android apps with waydroid, but I’ll also try this!
I tried it a few times, did not work for me, I’ve had android emus on windows work fine, I’m pretty sure I followed the setup correctly, but I couldn’t get apps to launch.
my Plasma Bigscreen Linux TV Box
Nice! What distro are you on? Or did you compile it yourself?
FYI, as well if you’re looking for a good remote for a GNU/Linux TV box (or Android, Windows, etc), this remote is the best one I’ve tried from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.ca/Backlit-Keyboard-Backlight-Learning-Voogoo/dp/B09Z2X4WGB
Have you been able to make voice search/input work in your setup? If so, how?
I’m currently using a Raspberry Pi with their Debian based OS. It is on Bookworm, but there are major improvements to Plasma Bigscreen on QT6. They didn’t make the updates before it was removed for Trixie, and Trixie is still in beta for Raspberry Pi, so doing an in place upgrade for the OS and compiling Plasma Bigscreen for it to see the improvements.
I think Manjaro (which works well on mobile too) has the latest one in their repos, and the KDE ARM OS may have it too if you want to try it without compiling it.
I want to see how difficult it is to drop in OVOS/Neon modules to replace Mycroft ones for voice control too.