I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about.
He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.
In grade school I thought teachers were using a weird metaphor or something when they said close your eyes and picture…. Little did I know, other people actually can do that!
In college, I learned how to see 3D through drafting class. Like someone else posted, I bet you can train yourself to see mental images, with or without AI.
my own experience leads me to believe this isn’t always possible; I’ve tried previously to ‘train’ a visual imagination for years with no results. Combined with finding out that even DMT doesn’t give me visuals, i’m pretty sure it’s impossible for my brain to picture anything.
Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn’t use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.
Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it’s a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn’t, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with “ball games” (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.
We don’t get caught up in memories the same way which can make moving on from things emotionally easier. While things can still be traumatic, not reliving them in such detail can be less traumatic.
I wouldn’t say there’s no upside.
We still function just fine, it’s just a different experience.
The upside sounds made up. There is no reason to believe that people with this challenge have this feature rather than you yourself having this feature for reasons completely unrelated to this.
There are literal studies done on this that show we have less emotional attachment to memories via not remembering them via visualization. More studies are needed obviously, but it appears to be the case. The visualization of anything can create more emotions.
E.g someone being read a passage triggered measurable similar changes in people without aphantasia and not the same in people with aphantasia, but watching a video of something had the same effect on both.
You can view that as a negative as well, but it goes both ways.
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I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about. He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.
Yeah, ngl I was like shoot, do I need to start doing some ai image shit?
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In grade school I thought teachers were using a weird metaphor or something when they said close your eyes and picture…. Little did I know, other people actually can do that!
In college, I learned how to see 3D through drafting class. Like someone else posted, I bet you can train yourself to see mental images, with or without AI.
my own experience leads me to believe this isn’t always possible; I’ve tried previously to ‘train’ a visual imagination for years with no results. Combined with finding out that even DMT doesn’t give me visuals, i’m pretty sure it’s impossible for my brain to picture anything.
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Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn’t use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.
Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it’s a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn’t, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with “ball games” (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.
if that’s true, that would be an interesting development, and help understanding and treating it
“condition” makes it sound like it’s a problem lol, it’s just a variation of thought
Aphantasia haver here. Full detail controllable movie in my head sounds cool. I also don’t really care that much, though.
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It appears to be a functional lack with no upside its a disability
We don’t get caught up in memories the same way which can make moving on from things emotionally easier. While things can still be traumatic, not reliving them in such detail can be less traumatic.
I wouldn’t say there’s no upside.
We still function just fine, it’s just a different experience.
The upside sounds made up. There is no reason to believe that people with this challenge have this feature rather than you yourself having this feature for reasons completely unrelated to this.
There are literal studies done on this that show we have less emotional attachment to memories via not remembering them via visualization. More studies are needed obviously, but it appears to be the case. The visualization of anything can create more emotions.
E.g someone being read a passage triggered measurable similar changes in people without aphantasia and not the same in people with aphantasia, but watching a video of something had the same effect on both.
You can view that as a negative as well, but it goes both ways.
It doesn’t really have any downsides either so it’s neutral
How on earth can you imagine that has no downsides?
I can’t imagine it, I have aphantasia 😎
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Just listened to this episode about aphantasia yesterday Third eye blind
We need gen-AI to be perfected first, right now its makes humans with 7 fingers and it gives me the heebie jeebies, nah, gotta wait like 10 years
Not really anymore. I mean it cant do backflips but it has been passing tests like will Smith eating soaghetti