• OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Given enough time, we were always going to have right wing authoritarians back in power.

    But call me an idealist, I didn’t think it would be actual Nazi sympathizers. Thought the brand was appropriately tarnished what with the Holocaust.

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    Weren’t they revoking degrees now for protestors? Anyone who considers Columbia a real school at this point is incurable.

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    4 months ago

    Let’s see…

    • Nazism
    • McCarthyism
    • Vietnam War
    • Racial Injustice
    • South African Apartheid
    • Occupy Wall Street
    • Gaza Genocide
    • etc.

    I am curious. Has there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN’T unequivocally vindicated by history?

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      The Young Turk movement started with medical students.

      There were quite a few pro-segregation protests when schools were desegregated.

      There’s also a lot of cases where students with real grievances and positive intentions are coopted; most of the students protesting in the early 90s in eastern europe didn’t intend to do a color revolution and have their countries stripped for parts.

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        Thank you for bringing those up. However, unless I’m misunderstanding them, the only one of those where the protesters were in the wrong were the pro-segregation protests, correct? But weren’t those protests by-and-large made up of parents? (Perhaps along with some of their children doing what they were told?) Not exactly the “rebellious youth sticking it to the man” we generally mean by the words student protest.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN’T unequivocally vindicated by history?

      • National Socialist German Student League were literal Nazis

      • The Red Guards were a Student-led paramilitary group.

      • Japanese Students protested against the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty (Anpo)

      • Veganism?

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        • Veganism?

        Hold up, you think the vegans are in the wrong? You can say that they’re annoying, but in terms of ethics and morals it’s not even an argument. It’s fine to not like tofu or whatever, but there is no amount of verbal gymnastics anyone can do to even begin to justify the modern meat and dairy industries. That shit is basically Animal Auschwitz times a billion.

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        It’s possible English isn’t your first language? No worries.

        The word “vindicated” doesn’t mean “won in the end,” it means “they were right.” As in, justified in their demands, on the right side of history. Even of the protests I listed in my first comment, half of them didn’t actually win in the end (Vietnam, Occupy, Gaza, and arguably more).

        From Wikipedia:

        …(the Seven Demands) for the government:

        1. Affirm Hu Yaobang’s views on democracy and freedom as correct.
        2. Admit that the campaigns against spiritual pollution and bourgeois liberalisation had been wrong.
        3. Publish information on the income of state leaders and their family members.
        4. Allow privately run newspapers and stop press censorship.
        5. Increase funding for education and raise intellectuals’ pay.
        6. End restrictions on demonstrations in Beijing.
        7. Provide objective coverage of students in official media.[84][83]

        I hope that you’d agree that the students were in the right, and that the oppressive CCP was in the wrong?

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            Yes, I understand that. Perhaps I was not empathetic enough, I am sorry to hear that about your family being deceived, along with the rest of mainland China.

            The fact that the oppressive CCP won does not mean they were right. The world is not a Disney movie, the good guys don’t always win.

            “Vindicated” just means that the good guys were good. Whether or not they won.

        • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
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          My dude, it’s right there in the description

          A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.

          Honestly, I have no idea what you are trying to argue

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            How does the post have anything to do with what you just quoted from the community rules?

            I am trying to say the post has nothing to do with science.

            • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
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              And? Seems like your definition and this community’s definition of “science memes” differ. Who cares. What are we even arguing about?