Police intervened when the protesters allegedly violated the restriction, triggering a confrontation, Bild reported. As tensions escalated, demonstrators reportedly threw bottles and clashed with officers, leaving at least one officer injured. Berlin police confirmed the incident on their official X account, stating that 28 people were detained and insisting that the officers had no choice but to use force against protesters who they claim were acting violently.
In Germany, “Pro-palestine” protestors usually try to hijack left-wing demonstrations for unrelated topics. Saw that many times myself, and get super sad about it all the time.
It is really tough if you are out demonstrating fascism, and all of a sudden people with antisemitic symbols stand behind you, waving their watermelons and god knows what
here’s a video on the history of palestine, you can decide for yourself if the jews have a right to live in palestine, have a right to a state in palestine, have a right to return to palestine and how long the conflict has been going on
Israel is a fascist apartheid state committing genocide. Police violently cracking down on anti-israel / anti-zionist speech is also fascist. You are conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism, which is genuine anti-semitism. Anti-zionism calls for the end to genocide and for Palestinians emancipation.
Zionism is about Settler Colonialism and Ethnic Cleansing of native Palestinians, it is not reflective of Judaism nor is it representative of Jewish people. Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. The conflation of the two is genuinely antisemitic, as it falsely attributes the actions of Israel to all Jewish people.
Zionism is anti-Semitic at it’s core, it other-izes Jewish people, and justifies the violent settler colonialim of Israel as in the defense of all Jewish people, which only serves to further fuel genuine Antisemitism at the expense of Jewish people globally. Zionism is also an inherently fascist ideology. The ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine has always been fundamental since it’s inception as a colonialist movement.
Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history.
here’s a video on the history of palestine, you can decide for yourself if the jews have a right to live in palestine, have a right to a state in palestine, have a right to return to palestine and how long the conflict has been going on
Just so you know, “Bild” is a german right wing magazine. Imagine fox news as a newspaper. They are well known to report false information to smear left wing initiatives and further hurt victims if they are left wing. Since the victims of police brutality here are apparently pro-palastine, Bild cannot be trusted to report accurately
The demonstration, which took place at Oranienplatz, reportedly remained peaceful until some began chanting anti-Israel slogans in Arabic, which is banned in Berlin.
the interpretations from the first poster of this article to everyone that has replied is so wildly incorrectly biassed against the german authorities and police to the extent that you compare them to nazis is astonishing
i think the violent fundamentalists are obviously yourselves
All languages other than German and English are banned at these protests in Berlin. It’s not only Arabic. Irish is also banned (see link below). Same goes for Hebrew (as per Hebrew speaking pro Palestine activists). And most likely any other language other than German or English would get instantly banned. This isn’t normal in a democracy. But sure, go find more excuses for the egregious attacks on our freedom of speech and assembly.
the languages are banned only if they cannot monitor hate speech, which they are very tough on in germany and happens to be all too common at these protests
you can still express yourself freely in german or english
Is there any reason for protesters to use a language other than German to make their opinion heard? It’s even extended to include English to be inclusive of foreigners who do not have a constitutionally protected right to protest in Germany in the first place. (In case you don’t believe me, Article 5 GG says “all Germans”, not “everyone”).
You know what the German left would do when he police tried to outlaw Italian at protests? a) challenge it in court because banning “alerta, alerta, antifascista” has no warrant, everyone knows what it means and it’s not like anyone would know any more Itanian to chant (short of “latte machiato spaghetti stronzo basta”) and b) not use it while that thing is in the courts. Choose your battles.
I cannot explain the ignorance of local mores that certain pro-Palestine groups are displaying in Germany as anything else but a false flag attack on the Palestinian cause. Because there’s no way in hell people can be so willfully dense, be so unable to work within the local conditions. Conditions which offer plenty of freedom if you don’t, at every opportunity, try to piss people off for no gain whatsoever. I’m trying to employ “never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity” but it’s getting damn hard the more those certain groups steadfastly refuse to learn, and even refuse advise regarding their tactics.
And from the paragraph you cited: “Berlin police confirmed the incident on their official X account…insisting that the officers had no choice but to use force against protesters who they claim were acting violently.”
They say shit like this even when there are hours of video demonstrating otherwise. I’m sure afterward they’ll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.
From the article
Police intervened when the protesters allegedly violated the restriction, triggering a confrontation, Bild reported. As tensions escalated, demonstrators reportedly threw bottles and clashed with officers, leaving at least one officer injured. Berlin police confirmed the incident on their official X account, stating that 28 people were detained and insisting that the officers had no choice but to use force against protesters who they claim were acting violently.
In Germany, “Pro-palestine” protestors usually try to hijack left-wing demonstrations for unrelated topics. Saw that many times myself, and get super sad about it all the time.
It is really tough if you are out demonstrating fascism, and all of a sudden people with antisemitic symbols stand behind you, waving their watermelons and god knows what
here’s a video on the history of palestine, you can decide for yourself if the jews have a right to live in palestine, have a right to a state in palestine, have a right to return to palestine and how long the conflict has been going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8F4NLr4E0
Israel is a fascist apartheid state committing genocide. Police violently cracking down on anti-israel / anti-zionist speech is also fascist. You are conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism, which is genuine anti-semitism. Anti-zionism calls for the end to genocide and for Palestinians emancipation.
Zionism is about Settler Colonialism and Ethnic Cleansing of native Palestinians, it is not reflective of Judaism nor is it representative of Jewish people. Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. The conflation of the two is genuinely antisemitic, as it falsely attributes the actions of Israel to all Jewish people.
Zionism is anti-Semitic at it’s core, it other-izes Jewish people, and justifies the violent settler colonialim of Israel as in the defense of all Jewish people, which only serves to further fuel genuine Antisemitism at the expense of Jewish people globally. Zionism is also an inherently fascist ideology. The ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine has always been fundamental since it’s inception as a colonialist movement.
Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history.
here’s a video on the history of palestine, you can decide for yourself if the jews have a right to live in palestine, have a right to a state in palestine, have a right to return to palestine and how long the conflict has been going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8F4NLr4E0
depends on the kind of anti-zionism
“destroy israel” for example is genocidal
palestinians and israeli’s have been trying to genocide eachother for about a hundred years
the palestinian “protest” has been injected into everything possible to influence a lot of things
courtesy of one of their sponsors; a mr putin from moscow, who ironically is best friends with a mr trump from NY - one of their worst enemies
Just so you know, “Bild” is a german right wing magazine. Imagine fox news as a newspaper. They are well known to report false information to smear left wing initiatives and further hurt victims if they are left wing. Since the victims of police brutality here are apparently pro-palastine, Bild cannot be trusted to report accurately
was good enough for dailytelegraph.co.nz (the linked source) but if you find any other sources please link
“The restriction” being: speaking any language other than german or english at a protest.
I think this should be spelled out. That’s how nazi this is
the interpretations from the first poster of this article to everyone that has replied is so wildly incorrectly biassed against the german authorities and police to the extent that you compare them to nazis is astonishing
i think the violent fundamentalists are obviously yourselves
All languages other than German and English are banned at these protests in Berlin. It’s not only Arabic. Irish is also banned (see link below). Same goes for Hebrew (as per Hebrew speaking pro Palestine activists). And most likely any other language other than German or English would get instantly banned. This isn’t normal in a democracy. But sure, go find more excuses for the egregious attacks on our freedom of speech and assembly.
https://www.theleftberlin.com/dangerous-language-bans-at-pro-palestine-camp-in-berlin/
the languages are banned only if they cannot monitor hate speech, which they are very tough on in germany and happens to be all too common at these protests
you can still express yourself freely in german or english
Is there any reason for protesters to use a language other than German to make their opinion heard? It’s even extended to include English to be inclusive of foreigners who do not have a constitutionally protected right to protest in Germany in the first place. (In case you don’t believe me, Article 5 GG says “all Germans”, not “everyone”).
You know what the German left would do when he police tried to outlaw Italian at protests? a) challenge it in court because banning “alerta, alerta, antifascista” has no warrant, everyone knows what it means and it’s not like anyone would know any more Itanian to chant (short of “latte machiato spaghetti stronzo basta”) and b) not use it while that thing is in the courts. Choose your battles.
I cannot explain the ignorance of local mores that certain pro-Palestine groups are displaying in Germany as anything else but a false flag attack on the Palestinian cause. Because there’s no way in hell people can be so willfully dense, be so unable to work within the local conditions. Conditions which offer plenty of freedom if you don’t, at every opportunity, try to piss people off for no gain whatsoever. I’m trying to employ “never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity” but it’s getting damn hard the more those certain groups steadfastly refuse to learn, and even refuse advise regarding their tactics.
And from the paragraph you cited: “Berlin police confirmed the incident on their official X account…insisting that the officers had no choice but to use force against protesters who they claim were acting violently.”
They say shit like this even when there are hours of video demonstrating otherwise. I’m sure afterward they’ll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.
They say shit like this
demonstrators reportedly threw bottles and clashed with officers, leaving at least one officer injured
before they violently arrest you
From the article it seems like bottles started flying after they started beating people. But of course it’s the protestors’ fault, always is
nope, they started racist chants which meant the police attempted arrests which caused the projectiles