• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    You aint see nothing yet. Wait till the Trumps celebrates 20 years of absolute control over your country and then we’ll talk. Americans chose fascism, explicitly.

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      No, of the people that voted, a slim majority voted for fascism. I think that is an important distinction that will have consequences.

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        “people that voted” is not a thing. you can’t absolve the American people from this. 86 million people did not vote. in a two party system that’s not a vote for neither; it’s a vote for “I’m fine with both”. so around 160 million people were A-OK with explicit fascism. that’s a huge majority.

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          Not voting and being okay with it are not the same. Voter disenfranchisement is a real thing. There where bomb threats, people removed from voting rolls, and copious amounts of propaganda. These things do not happen in a vacuum.

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            I’m not including disenfranchisement. It’s a big problem in the US, but it’s not 86-million big. those who could vote and didn’t are complicit.

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              If the disenfranchised and non-counted mail in votes were counted there’s a high likelihood Trump would have lost the upper mid-west states that gave him the win. Georgia would have possibly been too close to call if not for voter suppression.

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            You’re mostly wrong. That was the cause of a minority of non voters. The vast majority simply didn’t care to vote.

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            yes it is.

            we’re holding a vote on whether to buy coke or pepsi for tonight’s party of 40.

            if only 5 people submit their preference, that means the 35 who saw the message but didn’t bother responding are OK with either. they lose the right to complain at the party that they preferred the one that the 3-person “majority” didn’t vote for.

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              False equivalency of the highest level. Only a child or an idiot would think a democratic vote and a preference for coke/pepsi are the same. smh

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                what a dumb way to say it’s your first time encountering an analogy.

                but I knew by your comments that whatever analogy i might use you’d try to weasel or if it by saying that’s different.

                i chose pepsi and coke deliberately actually for this reason. most people normally prefer coke. but for is also on the bds list now, so it is a political vote involving genocide. would you look at that.

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            I don’t care what you think. We have fascism now and it’s your family and friends’ fault. Possibly also your fault. Fuck you.

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        By that metric Hitler was not voted into office either. It doesn’t matter that not literally every single person in the country voted for him, what matters is that it was enough to a achieve power, and the opposing forces allowed it to happen.

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        A slim majority is still a majority. It was basically half your country that chose this, or even more if you consider those that didn’t vote were ok with this as well.

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      His kids will have to lead the parade, there’s no way that sentient Big Mac is going to last another 20 years.

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        Y’know, I used to agree on this, but in the era of deepfakes I half wonder if we’d have body-double Trumps leading the country for the next several decades. Like a stupider version of the “Putin Body Double” theory.

        It’s not like there isn’t days and days worth of video and audio to train the AI on.

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      Americans chose fascism, explicitly.

      They choose fascism every four years. But this is tacky fascism, which liberals can’t stand.

      There’s a good and proper way to take over the courts. Trump has violated the norms. He’s making liberal democracy look bad. Unforgivable.

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        Well you won, the liberals are owned. Now you have a pedophile dictatos and a nazi running your country. But man, you did show those libs!! Palestine is so god damn proud of you right now!!!

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          Now you have a pedophile dictatos and a nazi running your country.

          I’m old enough to remember Dennis Hastert (confirmed pedophile) as House Speaker and Dick Cheney (unapologetic fascist) running the Executive Branch.

          Nevermind the litany of Klan members and Apartheidists littered through governor’s offices and Senate seats straight through my childhood.

          But they knew where the line was. They knew the Real Common Enemy was anti-colonialist insurgencies in Vietnam and Cuba and Iran and Chile. They knew how to work with the Clintons and Schumers and Pelosis to crush Radical Islamism and Fuck The CCP.

          Now fascism is returning to the imperial core and liberals are terrified of being treated like an Iraqi or Haitian. Absolutely intolerable!

          Trump’s threatening to send white people to Gitmo!!! That’s not supposed to happen!!!

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            You are a pedo-fascist dude. A whiny privilege-ass average american little bitch. You’re not half as smart as you think you are lol.

            The entire world hates you. Palestine hates you. Your own country hates you. . The women hates you. Every single minorities group hates you. Russia and China laugh at you.

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    “He who saves his country does not violate any law”?! The man is truly insane… not even meant as an insult at this point, just a freaking fact.

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    I think using more words to describe what is happening would help. I’m not sure everyone really understands what fascism is. Maybe mix it up a little?

    • authoritarianism
    • trump and musk are dictators
    • monarchy
    • feudelism
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      Need to #'Muricanize it more

      • Tyranny
      • Redcoats
      • “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” -Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence
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          Maybe the biggest problem is that anyone who would educate themselves on anything in the first place wouldn’t be supporting fascism. So the people who need to read it most won’t care. The only thing that will stop their support is if they’re personally hurt, and even then.

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            It took me a really long time to figure out what it really meant. I knew what it implied, but I hadn’t been exposed to those aspects of history. I agree that well educated people probably know, that’s why we should make it easier to understand.

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    I cant help but notice that those who claim to reject this are still Republicans who vote Republican and endorse Republicans.

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    Oh great, so the “co-equal” legislative is no longer being useless. It’s being less than useless, actively undermining the judicial branch for the benefit of the executive.

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    The process to impeach judges requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate, right?

    So basically not happening that route.

    They’re likely to attempt other means, but those means won’t have the notion of legality that impeachment has at least

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      The process to impeach judges requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate, right?

      Idk. Maybe. Or maybe it just requires an EO and a visit from the DOGE Department. Who can say anymore?

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      Either way they will sew doubt through propoganda for the populous’s view of the judicial branch and the executive branch will use it as a means to ignore their rulings further and cement the fact that the branches no longer can hold each other in check.

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    I have zero interest in hearing about “activist judges” from the party that gamed the system to stack the Supreme Court with literal activists rather than serious jurists.