• moncharleskey@lemmy.zip
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    7 天前

    No, of the people that voted, a slim majority voted for fascism. I think that is an important distinction that will have consequences.

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      “people that voted” is not a thing. you can’t absolve the American people from this. 86 million people did not vote. in a two party system that’s not a vote for neither; it’s a vote for “I’m fine with both”. so around 160 million people were A-OK with explicit fascism. that’s a huge majority.

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        6 天前

        Not voting and being okay with it are not the same. Voter disenfranchisement is a real thing. There where bomb threats, people removed from voting rolls, and copious amounts of propaganda. These things do not happen in a vacuum.

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          6 天前

          I’m not including disenfranchisement. It’s a big problem in the US, but it’s not 86-million big. those who could vote and didn’t are complicit.

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            6 天前

            If the disenfranchised and non-counted mail in votes were counted there’s a high likelihood Trump would have lost the upper mid-west states that gave him the win. Georgia would have possibly been too close to call if not for voter suppression.

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          You’re mostly wrong. That was the cause of a minority of non voters. The vast majority simply didn’t care to vote.

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          yes it is.

          we’re holding a vote on whether to buy coke or pepsi for tonight’s party of 40.

          if only 5 people submit their preference, that means the 35 who saw the message but didn’t bother responding are OK with either. they lose the right to complain at the party that they preferred the one that the 3-person “majority” didn’t vote for.

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            4 天前

            False equivalency of the highest level. Only a child or an idiot would think a democratic vote and a preference for coke/pepsi are the same. smh

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              what a dumb way to say it’s your first time encountering an analogy.

              but I knew by your comments that whatever analogy i might use you’d try to weasel or if it by saying that’s different.

              i chose pepsi and coke deliberately actually for this reason. most people normally prefer coke. but for is also on the bds list now, so it is a political vote involving genocide. would you look at that.

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          I don’t care what you think. We have fascism now and it’s your family and friends’ fault. Possibly also your fault. Fuck you.

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      By that metric Hitler was not voted into office either. It doesn’t matter that not literally every single person in the country voted for him, what matters is that it was enough to a achieve power, and the opposing forces allowed it to happen.

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      6 天前

      A slim majority is still a majority. It was basically half your country that chose this, or even more if you consider those that didn’t vote were ok with this as well.