Hehe…that shit makes me laugh
The USA is in panic mode, they thought they could undermine China’s development just like they did with ball-sucking Europe, now there is a need for other nation to come up with their own models, and show the US they should stop underpinning monopolies.
These people will keep pushing and pushing. They know this is ridiculous, but if they flood the public with this bullshit, eventually the overton window shifts and people get brainwashed into thinking cult shit like this is good.
I wasn’t gonna, but now I gotta…
You laugh, but stay safe
Yes the ban on TikTok is working! We’re getting more and more freer!!! The kids will be saved!!! \s \s \s
“Victory for free speech (as long as it means only we get to talk”)! /s
Land of the free
Land of the free only refers to owning guns.
Its open source lol. Why don’t the tech billionaires innovate? Instead they just ban competitors
turns out all that shit about open markets, free trade, competition was just while they had no competition to exploit it after WW2 left Europe and Asia devastated, now that China (with their own protectionism) is doing it better than the US…back to protectionism and fascism.
This is astounding.
I mean, not the Deepseek or jailing stuff. I mean a Senator actually proposing a law. I thought the way our government worked was, the annoying orange declares a vague uncited threat to be bad, and signs an executive order on it!
No, we also allow mega corporations to submit bills that get rubber stamped by a rep somewhere. I don’t think a corporation would be so audacious as to submit this, so it’s a rare case of original content.
ways to self-sabotage (100% speedrun)
You overestimate the strength of the cognitive dissonance. These people have somehow found a way to overcome the concept of hypocrisy and the consequences for it. They’re impervious to shame and repercussions.
This is them gathering their strength. The more we care about facts and honesty, the more they win. This is kind of the endgame
not back-dated so download away fellas (not sure if a law can apply on acts before it was a law)
Ex post facto laws are expressly prohibited in Article I, so they can’t pass a law criminalizing downloads from before the law was passed.
They can, however, criminalize possessing a copy of DeepSeek. In that case you’d be legally required to delete it after the law passed.
They also can’t amend the constitution via executive order or deport US citizens, but watch them try it anyway
Yup.
“they can’t do that, that’s illegal!”
Shame the law doesn’t mean Jack Fucking Shit now.
The law is whatever they want it to be at any moment.
That order lasted about 10 minutes before a judge appointed by Ronald Fucking Reagan.
Not sure about the laws wording, but if it is open source just create a branch with a different name.
I have seekdeep, nothing at all like DeepSeek
In principle: no. But Americans no longer have any principles (or never did in the first place)
Download the model and run locally is the most secure and privacy friendly way to use it.
It’s absurd how little they know about what they are doing.
I doubt they understand local vs server distinction.
“Server is when we ask Amazon to build a backdoor, local is when we ask Microsoft”
And that’s exactly why they want to stop it
Nah, Congress (esp the Senate) is a bunch of old people yelling at clouds, and sometimes they yell the same thing. Don’t give them too much credit.
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It’s easy to run a distilled version of the R1 model locally. It’s very difficult to run the full version. Min $6k to get 7 tokens per second.
Here’s one for 2k if you don’t mine jank (edit: and 3-4 tokens :) )
https://digitalspaceport.com/how-to-run-deepseek-r1-671b-fully-locally-on-2000-epyc-rig/
I hear its easy, but I’ve had no luck at all on the most distilled models (for prelim testing), and am wondering how things have broken so badly.
I think the average IQ of republicans must be 20.
No, that’s collective IQ
Fascist regime and power/police abuse has started.
P.S.: It seems like the US is becoming similar to Russia, kleptocratic country and organised crime in government.
to be fair for black Americans that is a centuries old tune
Most minorities — it’s the middle - upper class straight able bodied white people who are oblivious to it all.
Oh, you’re right
Don’t worry, their already bad situation will get worse too.
Every step unchallenged is an invitation to do more.
Wow, bold choice to ban the import of technology and knowledge. Usually governments are worried about export, so it doesn’t fall into the wrong hands.
Btw, how is the Nvidia stock price doing?
Right? Like, seriously, we all know somebody is just butthurt because their stock options tanked.
Oh, wait, I’m sorry! That was very unpatriotic of me, wasn’t it? I mean, we all know that winning an election guarantees being heavily rewarded with insider trading, right? It’s not like they’re there to represent constituents or anything; I mean, doesn’t everyone know we’re a republic, not a democracy?!
Sigh…
To be fair, this is common practice. Countries do this all the time to protect their economies. Mostly known in the West is China which banned many US services.
Of course, security of the data of the citizens is also a factor. You don’t want foreign countries use this data to interfere in any way.
Honestly, I don’t think this is common practice in non-oppressive countries. I mean sure, this happens in North Korea, Iran, China… But I’m relatively free to consume what I want with a few minor exceptions. For example we don’t import food that isn’t food-safe by our standards. Regardless if it’s common practice to eat it in other places. Also food may not be able to enter the country due to laws on animal cruelty. Similar things apply to electronic devices that aren’t up to code. And some select few things are banned altogether and you can’t have them and neither can someone import them. Other than that, regulations aren’t super strict. I can use all American social media platforms despite them stealing my personal data and violating European privacy laws regularly, can use Russian or Chinese websites… I think I live in a free country.
Helping domestic economy is done with tariffs / import tax. And not by banning things and putting people in jail.
And mind that this isn’t about the service that collects your data and gives it to the Chinese government. This is about downloading the model file and using it all by yourself. So no data gets transferred to a foreign country. And it’s not because people could get harmed or anything. This is just because the vice president doesn’t want it personally. Like in some dictatorship. Otherwise they would have banned transferring data into foreign countries, if that’s what it’s about. But they didn’t do that, because it’s not about protecting the people.
Or did I miss something and there are other examples for limitations on import?
No, I think you did not miss anything 😇
Good summary
