Summary

Iranian pop star Amir Hossein Maghsoudloo, known as Tataloo, has been sentenced to death for blasphemy after the supreme court overturned a prior five-year prison sentence.

Tataloo, who had been living in Istanbul since 2018, was extradited to Iran in 2023 and has since been detained.

He also faces charges of promoting “prostitution” and spreading “propaganda” against the Islamic Republic.

The verdict is not final and can still be appealed.

Once a figure courted by conservatives, Tataloo gained fame for his controversial music and tattoos.

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    If God (or Allah if you prefer that name) is so angry about blasphemy, why does He risk letting fallible humans take care of the problem?

    Simply cause the blasphemer to drop dead. Then the faithful can clean up the aftermath if they wish to appear faithful, because it is less important how that is handled.

    Is this comment blasphemous? We’ll see if I drop dead.

    • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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      They can’t because it’s not believers vs unbelievers, the clergy educated in biblical scholarship know their position is indefensible that’s why they enforce blasphemy laws and murder apostates. Because in the light of transparency, historical context, and evidence none of the religions of Abraham are reasonable to believe.

      They know it’s made up, but they can’t stop because they’ve convinced themselves it’s for the greater good to defend the ‘noble lie’.

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        Or they are power hungry aholes, and/or working for power hungry aholes.

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      I just have to say, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of god if you view it as a him or any kind of conscious figure making decisions for humans.

      That’s not how god works, not even in the minds of its believers.

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        Both sheep and wolves are religious but for different reasons. You seem to be saying that there are only wolves.

        However, the wolves are dressed as sheep, and occasionally it is useful to tear off the sheepskins they hide under in order to save other animals that they also eat, if not also the sheep.

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        That’s not how god works, not even in the minds of its believers.

        I wish that were true. Millennia of indoctrination to serve the status quo (political as much as religious) shows otherwise.

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      that would be awesome, assuming they’re all evil, but destroys the principle of faith

      I’m pretty sure that the ruse, if there is one, must be impossible to prove

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    Turkey extradites to Iran? That seems like something that wouldn’t help join the EU.

    Edit: I should specify that I’m being somewhat sarcastic. My comment is technically true but in fact this extradition policy is largely irrelevant to real-world diplomacy.

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        I’d say that Turkey has stopped seriously trying to join the EU, but that’s because I don’t know what they want or don’t.

        My comment was intended to sound cynical, but I totally failed to actually make it sound that way. (I edited it just now in an attempt to fix that.) Europe’s relationship with Turkey is dominated by geopolitical and economic concerns, not moral ones.

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        After they were refused repeatedly and the last attempt really highlighted how common racism is in the EU I cannot blame them for not wanting to join anymore.

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            Yeah that’s because of their religions and skin tones. Trust me the racism directed at the Turkish application in the early 2000s was intense the problem is many Europeans think race isn’t an issue in their country despite the evidence to the contrary.

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      And special mention to Turkey for extraditing the artist to Iran over such bullshit.

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      Are you from that country that just voted in a convicted felon as their next president?

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    “blasphemy”

    Holy hell. How anyone defends these overly religious, dirt ball countries boggles my mind. Overzealous religion rules with an iron fist.

    In Poland, you can be arrested and charged with “offending religious feelings”

    America is far from perfect, but I can pretty much say whatever I want, with few exceptions, and not be subjected to legal consequences.

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      Don’t worry, thats gonna change with project 2025. Iran was a pretty progressive country before a bunch of zealots taken the power.

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        I wonder what Western power meddled in Iran to facilitate the shift from progressive to zealotry? 🤔

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        Sorry, my dude. Take your project 2025 boogie man stuff down the road. Call me when something actually happens.

        Action > talk

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          You mean like how they’re murdering women by preventing life saving health care?

          At least this dude said something. These women were killed for simply being a woman.

          The action is already started.

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            I think you misunderstand his point.

            He’s saying nothing will change for the better until we actually see it happen.

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              I disagree.

              OP: The thread starts saying america isn’t perfect, but at least they can say what they want.

              Reply: The reply is that Iran didn’t start that way either and with project 2025 were headed that way.

              OP: Project 2025 is boogeyman scary stuff, stop trying to scare people and call me when they actually are doing something.

              Me: They’re already murdering women.

              He’s essentially brushing off the start of project 2025 saying the whole thing is talk, when we have actual actions already. (edit: We have every reason to expect more actions.) (edit: just to further clarify… project 2025 started before 2025, it’s a long term plan by the far right they’ve been working on implementing for a very long time)

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            I don’t believe you know what “murder” means.

            Again, someone call me when this project 2025 stuff starts coming to light. And I mean legitimately.

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              PlainSimpleGarak said "I don’t believe you know what “murder” means.

              Again, someone call me when this project 2025 stuff starts coming to light. And I mean legitimately."

              I’m fucking saving this shit before you try to delete it if someone does call you out.

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          You mean like the raft of executive orders that Trump just signed that were directly out of Project 2025?

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            If that’s the case, left wing MSM will undoubtedly begin dropping stories making this exact claim. I’ll be on the look out for them.

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              “You say I have been stabbed, and I am actually bleeding with a knife in me, but Fox News hasn’t told me about it so far so you must be a just a lying fear mongerer”

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                Don’t worry, his pregnant girlfriend, who was only pregnant because contraceptives were illegal, will die from complications easily solved other than the option being illegal, and he’ll be jailed for fetalcide because he couldn’t pray the problem away, and he’ll still be wondering where the actions are.

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          I totally agree.

          It’s a shame this generation hasn’t realized that talk is cheap yet.

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    What ever happened to those protests a few years ago?

    Did they just die out because the protestors didn’t have weapons and the abusers did?

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    I misread that as “Italian” and it felt a bit weird.

    Thought it was someone who snaps their spaghetti before cooking it.