• FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    7 hours ago

    So was it the the Russians who blew up their own Nord pipeline, or was it that Ukrainian guy with a yacht? It’s hard to keep track

    Data cables defo Russia sabotage (if deliberate), doesn’t serve anyone else’s goals

        • Optional@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          7 hours ago

          Except for the German federal prosecutors, Dutch officials, former Ukranian commander in chief, and the sabotage team themselves, I suppose you’re right.

          Days after the attack, in October 2022, Germany’s foreign secret service received a second tipoff about the Ukrainian plot from the CIA, which again passed on a report by the Dutch military intelligence agency MIVD. It offered a detailed account of the attack, including the type of boat used and the possible route taken by the crew, according to German and Dutch officials.

          Inasumuch as you can have a source for a covert operation after the fact.

          • BlackLaZoR@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 hours ago

            Can you link the direct source - like, statement of german police or official press conference?

            I’ve spent some time looking into this and found no direct sources.

            BTW, these articles are copypaste - There were bunch of much older (2023?) ones which I also failed to find any credible source for.

            EDIT: Correction, the first articles about this came out 3 months ago

            The part about Zelenski ordering sabotage while drunk has both no source and is utterly ridiculous.

            • Optional@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 hours ago

              The part about Zelenski ordering sabotage while drunk has both no source and is utterly ridiculous.

              I agree. I also didn’t see it in the article -?

              If you want to find German federal prosecutor records, or Dutch itelligence reports - I’m not sure where to go for those.

              It pains me to say this but the WSJ, while being a Murdoch rag and certainly guilty of ridiculous bias in the way it reports things, isn’t really known for making up things whole cloth like the Daily Mail or something.