And yet accelerated genocide is the option that was chosen.
Look, I get the argument you’re making. The problem is that it hinges entirely on accepting a premise that isn’t based in reality. Progress, specifically as it relates to harm reduction, doesn’t happen instantaneously. It never has. You take the wins you can get and then push for the next step. You can be mad about that, and I would argue that we all should be, but it’s not going to change the way things work. In this case you’ve let idealism get in the way of actual tangible improvement. Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement. If you can find a way to rationalize that in your head to make you feel like the good guy then I understand why you would want to take that path, but do you honestly believe the people of Gaza take solace in the fact that you had good intentions? I’d wager they don’t give a shit how you frame this in your mind. They’re just thinking about what a Trump presidency means for the future of this conflict and that isn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.
This is deranged. Progress? Improvement? What did Kamala say she would do differently? Did she say she’d stop sending weapons and financial assistance?
What did Kamala say she would do differently?
You cant keep talking about progress and improvement without any signs of either. The only potential for improvement we have is a progressive candidate
I believe she would have been marginally better than Biden but, as you continuously refuse to acknowledge because it completely defeats the point you are trying to make, that is not what we’re discussing here. Trump is indisputably going to be worse than either of them and that’s what you have chosen to support through inaction. You can talk in circles around that fact as much as you like but it won’t change reality.
You were the one that brought up progress and improvement. But those words have meanings, and its not keeping things the same. Things are currently unacceptable for a lot of people, and everyone here told them to hush up about demanding better. And so they hushed up and stayed home.
Netanyahu was filibustering the peace process hoping for Trump to win while he ran out the clock. If he, like Putin, were forced to deal with Harris instead of Trump over the next four years his attitude would’ve changed.
Filibuster? Man that asshole doesnt have a filibuster, he has absolutely zero authority over whether or not we send him weapons and financial assistance.
Why would his attitude have to change with Harris vs his current attitude with Biden? Did she say she was gonna stop sending weapons and money? She was pretty adamant about being a continuation of Biden as far as I saw
Why would his attitude have to change with Harris vs his current attitude with Biden?
Because Biden and Harris and various other Democrats wanted peace and were genuinely concerned about the people in the region caught up in the conflict. Trump gives absolutely no shits about any of it and neither do Republicans who will allocate the funds because that’s how our government works.
Because Biden and Harris and various other Democrats wanted peace and were genuinely concerned about the people in the region caught up in the conflict.
Oh they were sending the genocidal nation a ridiculous amount of bombs and missiles for peace. Makes sense.
No, they were trying to have peace talks with Netanyahu for peace.
Netanyahu was able to successfully run the clock out on them, and now they have close to zero leverage because even if Biden single-handedly impounded the funds for Israeli aide, they still have plenty of powder left to blow through and Trump will resume the flow of aide in two months.
Oh well, you’ve gotten your way Harris lost to Trump. I’m sure you’ll badger his supporters and push on him to end the war peacefully and won’t just spend all of your time writing up new Democrats bad and libs bad posts on lemmy.
And yet accelerated genocide is the option that was chosen.
Look, I get the argument you’re making. The problem is that it hinges entirely on accepting a premise that isn’t based in reality. Progress, specifically as it relates to harm reduction, doesn’t happen instantaneously. It never has. You take the wins you can get and then push for the next step. You can be mad about that, and I would argue that we all should be, but it’s not going to change the way things work. In this case you’ve let idealism get in the way of actual tangible improvement. Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement. If you can find a way to rationalize that in your head to make you feel like the good guy then I understand why you would want to take that path, but do you honestly believe the people of Gaza take solace in the fact that you had good intentions? I’d wager they don’t give a shit how you frame this in your mind. They’re just thinking about what a Trump presidency means for the future of this conflict and that isn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.
This is deranged. Progress? Improvement? What did Kamala say she would do differently? Did she say she’d stop sending weapons and financial assistance?
What did Kamala say she would do differently? You cant keep talking about progress and improvement without any signs of either. The only potential for improvement we have is a progressive candidate
I believe she would have been marginally better than Biden but, as you continuously refuse to acknowledge because it completely defeats the point you are trying to make, that is not what we’re discussing here. Trump is indisputably going to be worse than either of them and that’s what you have chosen to support through inaction. You can talk in circles around that fact as much as you like but it won’t change reality.
You were the one that brought up progress and improvement. But those words have meanings, and its not keeping things the same. Things are currently unacceptable for a lot of people, and everyone here told them to hush up about demanding better. And so they hushed up and stayed home.
Netanyahu was filibustering the peace process hoping for Trump to win while he ran out the clock. If he, like Putin, were forced to deal with Harris instead of Trump over the next four years his attitude would’ve changed.
Filibuster? Man that asshole doesnt have a filibuster, he has absolutely zero authority over whether or not we send him weapons and financial assistance.
Why would his attitude have to change with Harris vs his current attitude with Biden? Did she say she was gonna stop sending weapons and money? She was pretty adamant about being a continuation of Biden as far as I saw
Because Biden and Harris and various other Democrats wanted peace and were genuinely concerned about the people in the region caught up in the conflict. Trump gives absolutely no shits about any of it and neither do Republicans who will allocate the funds because that’s how our government works.
Oh they were sending the genocidal nation a ridiculous amount of bombs and missiles for peace. Makes sense.
No, they were trying to have peace talks with Netanyahu for peace.
Netanyahu was able to successfully run the clock out on them, and now they have close to zero leverage because even if Biden single-handedly impounded the funds for Israeli aide, they still have plenty of powder left to blow through and Trump will resume the flow of aide in two months.
no??
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/blinken-approves-sale-israel-military-equipment-worth-over-20-bln-2024-08-13/
Lol quite the counterargument. 😆
Oh well, you’ve gotten your way Harris lost to Trump. I’m sure you’ll badger his supporters and push on him to end the war peacefully and won’t just spend all of your time writing up new Democrats bad and libs bad posts on lemmy.
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