• XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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    You should be wary of labelling an entire group by the actions of a few.

    Do the war crimes committed in Abu Ghrabi make all Americans barbarian terrorists?

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      While it’s true that it’s not the entirety of the Russian population, there’s still the oligarchs, mercenaries, media outlets, the entire government body, and a fuck ton of the military, all more than happy to fuck over their ex-comrades as soon as they get the green light. I’m pretty sure that’s who we mean when we generalize “Russians”.

      As a Latin American, this applies to Americans as well. Much love to a decent part (if not most) of the people there, but FUCK the US for fucking us all over with banana republics, neoliberalism, and red scare shenanigans, only to then have the galls to turn out to be xenophobic, warmongering, orangeman-loving fundamentalist imbeciles.

      Anyway, Russia, right. Fuck Putin and his greasy ball oligarchs.

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        And the Americans used to be on the side of the Taliban when it suited them in a proxy war with Russia.

        The point I’m making is that most people want a quiet and happy life. I know that dehumanising the enemy is a natural part of war, but try to be mindful of that and leave civilians out of it.

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          And the Americans used to be on the side of the Taliban when it suited them in a proxy war with Russia.

          The Mujahideen of the 80s weren’t the Taliban. The Mujahideen-led government of the early 90s was quite explicitly attacked and overthrown by the Taliban, and reformed into the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, which still existed by the time of our intervention in Afghanistan in 2001.

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        Case in point, you’re making the assumption that all Russians support the killing of these POWs.

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          Huh, no I’m not? I’m saying the army’s and the media’s reaction to war crimes is better in the west than in Russia. Russian society seems pretty fucked up, but I know that most of individual Russians don’t have a say in it.

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      russia is a terrorists state. It’s up to russians to change this fact. Until they do, all of them are assisting terrorism.

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        What a silly response. Americans can’t get their leaders to allow them a minimum living wage, yet this guy wants Russians to topple a terrorist state. Stop with the group labeling. Not everyone has the knowledge / courage / ability / nothing-to-lose attitude that it takes to fight organized government mafia that’s been throwing opponents out of the Kremlin windows without restraint. Let’s give the Russian people the benefit of doubt regarding their intentions, and not call them all terrorists at least.

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          russians are attempting a genocide upon Ukraine. They are castrating/beheading captured soldiers, murdering/kidnapping/brainwashing Ukrainian children. Until they prove otherwise, russia is a terrorist state and russians are terrorists.