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      It’s not just lack of representation though. The UK is removing trans people’s access to the healthcare that allows them to live a tolerable life.

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        And that is a very serious issue that I feel deeply for and want to help them overcome it.

        But it’s not a fucking genocide.

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      UN definition of genocide: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

      Although you can’t technically genocide trans people because they’re not one of the special groups outlined in the definition, you don’t actually need to kill people to commit a genocide. I would argue that there is “intent to destroy, in whole or in part” trans people by “Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”. By taking away healthcare and other accommodations, serious harm is caused to trans people. Couple this with the high suicide rates of bullied and marginalised trans people, one could argue that the lawmakers are intending to kill trans people (although I personally wouldn’t go that far)

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        It’s not genocide for the same reason that straight-up euthanising, say, schizophrenics isn’t: Neither are a people, but a subset of every people.

        I’d lump it in with eugenics but genocide is catchy so I’ll permit it despite better semantic judgement.


        EDIT: What, y’all disagreeing with me about the use of “genocide” being politically opportune?

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      The government literally covered up the massive leap in suicides since banning trans care for youths.

      Bit more than not being represented.

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          It pretty much is. If you ignore the culture / race part. Eugenics would be a more correct term.

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              How magnanimous of you…

              Well now that we all agree on the exact proper word to describe it, can we maybe stop Terf island from “massacring” a population for the horrible crime of existing? I know that it was vital for us all to spend our finite energy and time to get the exact most perfect word for the evil they are causing.

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      How is lack of healthcare = Not being represented?
      You are making a strawman argument, there is much more to it than not being represented.

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        By that logic, all US Citizens are victims of ongoing genocide.

        Genocides are a real thing that are really happening to people across the world, you can’t just make it mean something less than it is in good conscience.

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          Trans people are losing access to healthcare in disproportionate ways, and unless you’re literally the dumbest person alive or have never read a news headline… you know that they are. Your disingenuous denial contributes to the problem. You are contributing to genocide.

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          Because denying genocide is cool and good, and being mean to the people denying your genocide is bad (:

          /s cissies will always be snowflakes who are more offended by an insult than an attempt to wipe out trans people

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        That’s you indulging in your fears about cultural change through a straw man, obviously it will disgust you. Luckily it’s not real, so you can focus on other things.

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        I mean, they keep killing themselves.

        If non-existence is preferable to the discomfort, I’d say the need to help them is pretty fucking immediate.

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        This is my first time ever seeing anyone suggest this exists, let alone ever seeing anyone say that legitimately.

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        I wager 9 out of 10 people that get super offended by anything not like them have a 64% chance to be gay, themselves.

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          You should be less involved and concerned with other people’s sexual preferences. It’s creepy.