• Xhieron@lemmy.world
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    Jesus is real. I love you. Those who hate you speak for neither Him nor for me.

    The Gospel of Christ is love, and woe to those who knowing it use His name to cause suffering and death.

    I’m sorry that people hurt you. That’s not what Jesus taught, and that’s not what He lived and died for.

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      When you say that you love me, do you mean it in the God’s Love kinda way? Or the human love kinda way?

      Cause God created hell and then told everyone to worship him, and if you don’t, you go to there. He calls that love. I don’t want that kind of love.

      To paraphrase Stephen Fry, God gives children bone cancer. I don’t want that kind of love.

      God lets those that have unabashed hate for others live in his sanctuary and preach his message. I don’t want that kind of love.

      God lets his priests sexually abuse others. I don’t want that kind of love.

      God lets wars be carried out in his name. I don’t want that kind of love.

      God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. I don’t want that kind of love.

      You can talk about Jesus’ teachings all you like, but actions speak louder than words. The Gospel of Christ is the love of an abusive partner. Say one thing, do another. God’s love is a terrible thing, and I want nothing to do with it, and anyone who does is a coward. If, and it’s a big if, if God is real, is he the kind of God you want to worship? Seems like a waste of effort at best, and a complete betrayal of others at worse. So, go ahead, spread his love around. Just remember what kind of love it is you are spreading.

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        The framing of “God’s love” you just gave is a very important one and completely true. I’m no theist and I also stand with Stephen Fry on the issue. But I’m pretty sure that Xhieron was trying to express something genuine and positive. Maybe don’t be so harsh to someone who was clearly trying to follow Jesus’s teachings to love thy lemmy user as thyself?

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          I think the phrase goes, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” It doesn’t matter what a person means. It is our actions that define us. You can be as positive as you want to be, but if you preach a message of hatred, all the lollipops in the doctors office can’t make up for the pain you cause. Claiming God’s Love is good when God’s Love means hating doesn’t make God’s Love better. It makes you worse.

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      You came to proselytize. They asked if you love them. Now, show this person a meaningful sacrifice.