• LEONHART@slrpnk.net
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    Have you seen what’s down there? It’s terrifying.

    You don’t have to tell me. Deep down at the bottom of the ocean? The whole place is crawling with…capitalists.

    Yeah, yeah. I know. Andrew Ryan gave us all the big, shiny speech, “sweat of your brow” and all that, but what’s he got down there now? Just a buncha junkies and opportunists running guns and peeling off all of that pretty art deco veneer.

    Thanks but no thanks, Ryan.

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    There isn’t much to see on the moon. It’s a giant piece of rock. You’re been there once, you’ve seen it.

    Deep ocean is a whole different story. Very many, very different ecosystems.

    Tbh I’ve never been to the moon so I’m not sure actually

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    If Lovecraft has taught us anythig, it’s that looking too closely into either one is a BAD idea.

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    It is much more complicated and difficult to explore the depths of the ocean than going into space, given that in space there is no need for vehicles that must withstand these enormous pressures. In space they only have to withstand an air pressure of 1 atm and not a thousand atm in the depths of the seas. A simple crack in the hull and you’re dead before you can say sh…

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      Just like how we explore moon/mars, we been using remote controlled submarine for quite a while now

      https://youtu.be/I1ozbgy5N-U?si=Z33ZZ0ij04uKl1le

      The challenge of deepsea is not pressure, it’s the limited visibility and range they can get with the submarine drone. On moon and mars, everything on the horizon is visible once the sun hit the surface, but deepsea doesn’t have that perk, and water block any radiation so well the submarine need to be tethered in order to receive signal and send video feed.

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        No, space is hard because of radiation and great distances, but a hole in the hull of the ship, for example due to a micro meteorite, can even be covered with a piece of duct tape. A hole in the hull of a submarine however is a catastrophe, if it does not directly cause the hull to implode, the water that enters has enough pressure to cut you in two.

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          The current “space” we go into, tends to have a tinny amount of atmosphere. (1.322×10-11 Pa according to some random top result on Google)
          So if you want to keep inside conditions at around 1 atm for a human to stay, that’s all the difference you need to keep, and a duct tape might work.

          But the void I refer to, is very different.
          Think:

          • Vaporising metals
          • Theoretical quantum bubble formation

          Normal spacecrafts made for “space”, might even have their outer surface constantly being diffused in the void.


          Disclaimer: I’m not a space nerd. The above is just speculation

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            Sure, but doesn’t the outer surface diffusing apply to the friction of water against a submarine’s hull too? No clue about theoretical quantum bubbles, but it doesn’t seem like anything that would affect spaceships in particular.

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              friction of water against a submarine’s hull

              I can’t say for sure, but I feel like the affect due to said friction would be much lower, considering we are managing solid-solid friction in a lot of places.

              theoretical quantum bubbles

              Yeah, that’s not relevant. Just added that to clarify which “void” I’m talking about.


              The vaporising metals problem, I think might be alleviated by covalent bonding materials, so polymers? But not sure about that either.

              Anti Commercial-AI license

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    You are just saying this cause you found out about the butt worm.

    Don’t let the idea of multi butts scare you. Come back to the oceans.

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    What about all the oceans on all the other planets?

    This is such an apples and oranges comparison, it grinds my gears every time it gets used to justify some nonsense conspiracy or cryptozoology nonsense.

    Sorry for being a grump.

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      And it occurred to me that the animals are swimming

      Around in the water in the oceans in our bodies

      And another had been found, another ocean on the planet

      Given that our blood is just like the Atlantic, and how

      Well the universe is shaped exactly like the earth

      If you go straight long enough you’ll end up where you were

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      Yea and I’d purely guess most worlds with life of some kind are on some sort of water planet, so you flee the ‘scary oceans’ at home to encounter alien ones of the same. If you can’t adapt to the first real good luck on the second.

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      In fact, we have a massive liquid methane ocean right in our solar system, on Titan. And we don’t know anything about what might be in it’s depths

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    “We know more about space than the oceans”

    Bitch the stars are out in the open. All you have to do is look up. We’ve been doing it since the dawn of civilization.

    Sorry, I hear that factoid too much from people don’t know better.

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        It’s a factoid to me because it doesn’t say much because what is “know better” any way? We’ve only sent people up to the moon and there are only ten people in orbit at this moment. Meanwhile, we likely send out more people underwater, everyday. The factoid suggests we know a lot about space even though we have no idea what 95% of space is.

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          its referring to images and recordings of space. there are hundreds of pictures of other galaxies, in remarkable definition, but no images of most of the ocean floor. we know more about what is actually out there, as well as what the planets and stars are made of, how far away they are, how they interact with each other, etc. we can know about something without physically visiting it

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          Yes at night, though.

          You can see the stars from the dark side of the moon, but if you get deep enough in the ocean, it’s just completely pitch black in the visible spectrum.

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            My bad - I forgot about the “deep” part by the time I responded to this, and was envisioning the surface, looking up at well, the moon actually. Yeah the deep deep ocean is absolutely pitch black, except for rare lava or phosphorescence or such, you are correct.