Somehow i have the feeling that i will regret further participating in this conversation, but i feel somewhat masochistic today:

Any western nation is safer because no western nation is surrounded by countries that would happily do to the israelis what the israelis currently are doing to the palestinians. Yes, its unfair and brutal, but as a nation of a people that was selected for annihilation just about 90 years ago i personaly can understand that they are willing to commit every atrocity needed to ensure that nobody will attack them.

Do i LIKE it? Hell no! Would i like a better solution where everyone over there lives in peace? Absolutely! But i can UNDERSTAND why they acting the way they do.

I was there, even a couple years before that… and in reality not so much has changed.

What we now call “The Internet” is what BTX (in germany) was back then: A commercialised platform controlled by corporations. Trolling, hate, ragebait… all nothing new, just look at archived posts from the Usenet!

The cool thing is that we now can rebuild something that is more akin to the BBS networks of yesteryear, something like the Fido-net, something that is entirely owned by the people using it.

I agree, but I will add that they are also indoctrinated from a young age to hate or fear the Palestinians. I don’t really think the long history means as much other than an excuse to continue the indoctrination.

The same could be said for the other side… which is the reason i think this conflict is absolutely hopeless…

I really don’t give a shit

I care as much about the Palestinians as i care about the Israelis… from my personal point of view i have as much emotional investment in them as with any other people that kill eachother in other parts of the world, so not very much.

How about the side using suicide bombers and defaulting to terrorism? Shooting unguided rockets into the general direction of a city also does not scream “good guys”, am i right?

Oh i can understand them also very well… but this doesn’t change anything. Neither side is “good” or “bad” over there, both sides have very good reasons to keep on fighting.

I think at this moment the total annihilation of one of the two sides is ineviteable, too much blood has been spilled too much atrocities were conducted on both sides.

The thing is: I can understand them.

If you are part of a minority that was trampled on for a long, long period of time, being targeted for anhiliation and now, having a somewhat safe nation for not even 80 years within a sea of other nations wanting to destroy them… well, i absolutely can understand them to ensure their safety whatever it takes. Yeah, it may not be pretty (or to be more precise: Often outright gross), it may not be “fair”… but i can understand that they don’t want to take any chances.

Thank Wotan that i am not part of this diseased culture…

I am using rsync triggered by cronjobs for this task now for… well… nearly forever.

Was he uneducated? Ah least the movie version got to study philosophy as mich as i recall…

About 25 years ago i dabbled into the pickup community (yeah, weird i know, but i think still better than the incel road). Sometimes my lair went to a town nearby to “work on our onfidence” by doing weird stuff in public (e.g. eating catfood publicaly or asking for directions to a place while standing right before said location… we were just morons).

One of those experiments was to ask exactly THIS question with a complete straight face to many, many women. And guess what… after asking this question perhaps 200 women this day one replied with “Oh yes, i am absolutely in the right mood, my flat is right over there!”

There i stood, being so dumbfounded by this answer that my super confident fassade crumbled away and fell into the gutter in an instant and my only reaction was “WHAT?!? You… you are supposed to say NO!”. Well, she walked sway laughing really hard.

Lets just conclude this story time by saying that i left this phase behind a long time ago and i am now married with kids for over ten years.

More of a shitcode…

Not everywhere! Our accounting department uses a self written toolset based on APL

And the guys who invented UNIX did so by using toggle switches and teletypes…

What about a trip into the smol-web? Perhaps a Gopher or Gemini Server? A IRC Bouncer? Or enter the fascinating world of telnet BBS systems!

I - as my personal opinion - think he is more a case for the 2nd amendment…

Of course he does.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.