I tend to believe people don’t really change but they do tend to show their true colors eventually.

A drunk action is a sober thought.

Congratulations on your positive change :)

I’m curious what Con voters will tell themselves after we lose this. And then whatever they take after that. What do they think, internally? Is it enough for them that people they’ve never met suffer, or do they require it to be specific people?

Good luck everyone, I am starting to feel a very real fear.

“I just reread The Left Hand Of Darkness last month, and it’s such a great book.”

It was my introduction to her writing, and wow what a fucking book. I read it in two days, I couldn’t put it down.

I love that even in AI art, Trump has small hands.

Not because he’s incoherent–he has been for years–it’s because he’s not popular.

Well, I recently lost, like, 50% of my credibility as an intellectual as I stopped smoking.

Hey, congrats!

“10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.” -Susan Sontag

Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant.

I think you missed my country of origin there, bud.

Also you’re just bait and switching here, your original point was that ‘the democrats’ fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then… he was.

You’re embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one.

Democrats defended him tooth and nail.

‘Democrats’ aren’t a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I’m Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better.

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This projection is calculated using a weighted average of polls by the 338Canada model to estimate current party support.

And the support of the Cons is trending up. I feel like you missed that part.

Sadly in this day and age, it is not obvious sarcasm.

RIP Irony.

But according to you, that is simply too far back to matter. Which is weird, because again, you provided the cherry picked data.

What? The BC Cons went from so far behind the BC NDP/United, whatever they’re called, to a few percentage points behind the NDP.

Scroll down on your link to the British Columbia | Popular vote projection.

On April 14th, 2023, the Cons were polling at 5%. A year and four months later, on August 14th, they’re polling at 38%. Look at that insane upward curve.

Sure, but women were literally considered lesser than men in virtually all ways for thousands of years and didn’t attempt to usher in another go at Fascism when their rights got taken away in the US. I am a 40-something man, and I have children who are now young men, and they don’t do this. The issue is we, older men, have failed younger men at large–we didn’t tell them ‘hey you’re being lied to, this toxic masculinity stuff is bullshit, here’s how to be a good partner.’ We let them think that they could act like we did in the 90’s and everything would be fine.

We let the media, particularly conservative, tell them all they have to do is be ‘breadwinners’ and they’ll get everything they want. Then they don’t, and we just… shrugged and said too bad. This is the first time in history women don’t have to be with men to survive, it really hasn’t been the case that long. These young men also, and this part I’m not 100% on the why’s, seem to have very, very low critical thinking skills. Not just because they’re young, but even into their mid 20’s the easy promises of fascism take them over.

There is an horrific irony to conservative media telling young men they’re only worth anything if they become a billionaire and find a partner to have children with, and then doing everything in their power to make that a challenge for those same young men. My kids come to me about once a week to try to figure out how to talk to their friends who are, quite literally, waffling between the CPC and NDP. They hate the way things are, but as soon as their 2SLGBTQIA+ friends get targeted, they go back to the NDP. Basically, they eat up conservative propaganda on Facebook (yes, still), Youtube, Twitter, etc, and then out in the real world they are faced with the opposite: women try to help them, their gay friends are totally normal, no immigrants or poor people come out to assault them.

I bring my kids with me to local workers strikes, Left-wing potlucks, etc, and it’s still somewhat baffling that there’s maybe 5-6 men there, and 40 women.

Instead of turning them into allies for those who are disadvantaged they have been told, “No yo go the back of the line.” (sometimes literally, looking at you federal NDP).

I have no idea what this is, can you link to something?

I agree with a lot of what you’ve said, but we also have to address the fact that men are, quite frankly, more easily tricked than their women counterparts, are more violent than their women counterparts, and have extremely low critical thinking skills. The solution to this is not to go ‘yeah but people are lying to us/them.’ Yes, I understand capitalism exists, we can’t do anything about that while over half of men are so easily swayed by what is frankly low-effort, easily-seen-through promises. We have to address this directly, to men. We’re fucking up. We’re letting our mothers, sisters, daughters, aunts, sons, really everyone down.

Over half of us have bought into this idea that to be a man is to be an unthinking robot with a sex-slave ‘partner’ while we toil endlessly for fascism, having enough children to replace us as cogs in the machine when we die. Why are young men behaving this way? Because the rest of us are too, and they’re learning from us.

That was what, 15% between the NDP and Cons a month or two ago? The lead is shrinking quickly.

I understand this is a federal poll, but I think we’re all intelligent enough here to extrapolate Conservative voting federally with provincially.

It’s not ‘hillbillies’ hurtling the Cons into power–there aren’t enough of them to make numbers like these.

It’s men.

Across all age groups, horrifically moreso the younger they get, men are voting Conservative in Canada. 56% of men under 35 want either the CPC or PPC in power.

And to be honest, and yes I’m using it again

Stay frosty, everyone, even with these insane views they’re polling neck-and-neck with the BCNDP.