Headline:
Arson is suspected…
Article:
Authorities say an unknown male suspect sprayed what they described as a possible accelerant on the office door, set it on fire and fled. They said the suspect remained at large and no motive had been established.
“A significant fire engulfed the door and part of the vestibule, impeding the egress of staff members who were working in the office and endangering their lives,” Burlington police said in a statement. “The sprinkler system then engaged and largely extinguished the fire.”
That’s absolutely arson, and almost assuredly a couple counts of attempted murder…
Isn’t this standard for journalism, that you can’t technically say a crime was committed until they’ve been found guilty in court?
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Pretty sure everyone with 2 brain cells knows the motive. Maga traitors did it.
d o m e s t i c t e r r o r i s t s !
Likely, however, Zionists also don’t like him right now. A high-profile popular Jewish politician speaking out against Israel’s actions in Gaza? Yeah, there’s a lot of high emotions there and he’s probably made some more crazy enemies. Right now, I’m 50/50 on which one of these two it might be.
The timing is what made me lean toward a zionist, since it comes directly on the heels of him telling Netanyahu to quit murdering innocent people. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a MAGAt, but I haven’t seen anything outside of what he normally does that would’ve particularly triggered one of them.
Party of law and order!
Pretty sure everyone with 2 brain cells knows the motive. Maga traitors did it.
That is the obvious answer, but until the investigation is completed and a suspect is arrested and charged, people making official statements need to choose their words carefully.
If it is, they’re gonna get a slap on the wrist like the January 6th insurrections. Once their attempted murder becomes political, they’re afraid to look tough on them out of fear of being called politically motivated, which is stupid.
If anything, political motives for a crime should be far more harsh.
I read on reddit that they police have to be absurdly cautious about ascribing motive before trial to the media. That it can break a case.
But yeah we all know what the motive was.
police have to be absurdly cautious about ascribing motive before trial to the media. That it can break a case.
That’s exactly what is happening in this statement.
Cops investigating so they obviously have no idea.
motive is unclear
looks at US politics
Is it?
I guess it could be a number of progressive things he has sided on over the years, but it happened now so yeah
He is very often demonized in conservative circles, I suspect simply because he utters the s word (“socialism”).
It’s probably climate change. That earthquake was from climate change, so why not?
No, the earthquake was about Americans needing to repent and turn their backs on sinful, unraked forests
God is clearly angry.
/s
Fracking can induce earthquakes.
Excessive rains following dry periods (like much of the northeast has seen…very dry winter followed by a very, very wet early spring) often causes landslides.
Is it really that far fetched that heavy rain could, on occasion, lead to quakes?
Especially considering we have decades old man-made means of dealing with water runoff. Instead of rain water permeating into the soil where it lands, now it gets funneled to one spot.
motive is unclear
Yes lol. Do they hate that he’s Jewish? Or that he’s anti-Zionist? Or maybe they hate socialism? There’s a lot for shitty people to hate about Sanders
Bernie is not anti-Zionist. He’s repeatedly emphasized Israel has a right to defend it’s settler colonial apartheid self. He’s a Zionist.
During a presidential debate in the same year in Atlanta, Sanders embarked on another contradiction: “It is no longer good enough for us to be pro-Israel, I am pro-Israel, but we must treat the Palestinians with the dignity they deserve.” Being pro-Israel is being pro-colonialism, for the simple reason that Israel is a colonial enterprise that thrives upon the dispossession of the Palestinian people.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231107-bernie-sanders-and-the-zionist-narrative/
Is it possible for someone to not be actively anti-something, or the lack if being so will qualify them as pro-something?
I mean OP called Sanders anti-Zionist. He’s certainly not that. Bernie has also outright stated that he supports Israel. I will admit that I may be slightly overstating the case to say that he’s incontrovertibly a Zionist, but he at least may be from his public statements.
I mean OP called Sanders anti-Zionist. He’s certainly not that. Bernie has also outright stated that he supports Israel. I will admit that I may be slightly overstating the case to say that he’s incontrovertibly a Zionist, but he at least may be from his public statements.
Israel is a lot like the Nazis. If you are not against the Nazis you are in favor of the Nazis. Bernie defending israel at the start of their Genocide for multiple months is surely not a great look. Even now Bernie has not called it a Genocide.
While Mr. Sanders was one of the first members of Congress to call for a humanitarian pause in the war amid a catastrophic civilian death toll in Gaza caused by Israel’s military offensive, he has rejected calls for a permanent cease-fire. Mr. Sanders, an independent, caucuses with Democrats.
He also reiterated his call for conditions on military aid to Israel and emphasized that Hamas was not a trustworthy negotiating partner in considering a permanent cease-fire.
“Biggest political disappointment of our generation,” Briahna Joy Gray, the national press secretary for Mr. Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, wrote about him on X.
Bernie is certainly not a prime target for someone that opposes israel but he is a Zionist.
So being a Zionist is just supporting Israel’s existence now? That’s a really really low bar, and what is your solution to these “Zionists”, the destruction of Israel?
Sure seems that way from their account history. Dude is coming just short of claiming Israel is a US colony and shouldn’t exist.
No, Israel should not exist as the ethnostate that it is today. Israel was conceived and continues to this day to exist as a state for Jewish people on Palestinian land, the indigenous people of which are systematically deprived of equal status under law.
That has always been the meaning of the word Zionist:
Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.
The key phrase is “as a Jewish state” which is what it is. It’s declaration of independence states as much.
The term Jewish state has been in common usage in the media since the establishment of Israel, and the term has also been used interchangeably with Israel. George W. Bush used the term in his speeches and in an exchange of letters with Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon in 2004.[5] Barack Obama has also used the phrase, for instance in a speech in September 2010 to the United Nations General Assembly.[6] The Israeli government under prime minister Ehud Olmert made the recognition of Israel as a Jewish state by the State of Palestine a pre-condition in the peace negotiations,[7] as did the government of his successor, Benjamin Netanyahu. (Wikipedia)
On 19 July 2018, with a vote of 62 to 55 (2 abstained), the Knesset adopted a new Basic Law that defines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. (Wikipedia)
The concept of a national homeland for the Jewish people is enshrined in Israeli national policy and reflected in many of Israel’s public and national institutions. The concept was adopted in the Israeli Declaration of Independence on 14 May 1948 as the objective of the establishment of modern Israel. The principle was given legal effect in the Law of Return, which was passed by the Knesset on 5 July 1950, and stated: “Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh.”[17] (Wikipedia)
A central issue in the Israel-Palestine debate is the Right of Return:
the principle that Palestinian refugees, both first-generation refugees (c. 30,000 to 50,000 people still alive as of 2012)[3][4] and their descendants (c. 5 million people as of 2012),[3] have a right to return and a right to the property they themselves or their forebears left behind or were forced to leave in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories (both formerly part of the British Mandate of Palestine) during the 1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight (a result of the 1948 Palestine war) and the 1967 Six-Day War.
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Opponents of the right of return hold that it is an unrealistic demand with no basis in international law and that if Israel were to absorb approximately five million Palestinians with an already existing large Arab population, it would lead to the demise of the Jewish state.[8]
So yes, opponents of Zionism call for the abolition of Israel as a Jewish state and the formation of a egalitarian state for all people regardless of race, ethnicity, or creed or at the least the creation of an independent Palestinian state to exist alongside Israel. But anti-Zionists do not support the Israel of today which is explicitly a Jewish ethno-state.
So yes, opponents of Zionism call for the abolition of Israel as a Jewish state and the formation of a egalitarian state for all people regardless of race, ethnicity,
Yes I was already aware of everything you said and that many anti-zionists will claim that. The issue is that there isn’t an apartheid like situation in Israel based on ethnicity, there are Arab Israelis who enjoy full rights and representation, have many members In the Knesset and a member of the Supreme Court. The oppression is entirely nationality based, which is why the only solution is the end of the occupation, not some nebulous destruction of Israel and every existing state structure in the region.
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A Jewish anit zionest democratic socialist, has enemies in today’s upside down world.
Bernie is a Zionist. What are you talking about? Yes, he eventually called for a ceasefire (as late as Dec. 10 he refused to call for a permanent ceasefire), but he’s never said anything remotely anti-Zionist. He’s repeatedly declared Israel’s right to defend it’s settler-colonial apartheid self.
He’s also campaigning for Biden while Biden actively ships 2,000 lb bombs to Israel to use in Gaza.
Bernie isn’t progressive. He’s betrayed the people and children of Gaza, supporting one of the chief defenders and supporters of their genocide.
During a presidential debate in the same year in Atlanta, Sanders embarked on another contradiction: “It is no longer good enough for us to be pro-Israel, I am pro-Israel, but we must treat the Palestinians with the dignity they deserve.” Being pro-Israel is being pro-colonialism, for the simple reason that Israel is a colonial enterprise that thrives upon the dispossession of the Palestinian people.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231107-bernie-sanders-and-the-zionist-narrative/
[Author] is an independent researcher, freelance journalist, book reviewer and blogger.
That’s just like, your opinion dude.
Seriously though, it’s an option piece from a freelancer. Opinions are not considered a form of evidence, nor is the author an expert in any field.
Your ad hominem doesn’t address any of the actual substance of my post, namely that Sanders has asserted Israel’s right to defend itself and has said he supports Israel.
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When a democrat does it, it’s literally terrorism.
But when a Republican does it, it’s just a small, isolated incident and barely warrants a charge.
Just a lone wolf.
One time thing.
Never will happen again.
One bad apple.
How could we have known?
Is “Republican” a motive?
Can… can it be one? Please?
i would venture that the motive is likely, almost certainly. Political.
