• FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      That doesn’t work against a highly organized system of oppression. That wise man never got a seat of power to abdicate itself through reason or begging.

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              7 months ago

              Every step forward has been through violence. It has worked every time. All of our rights came through acts of violence. Asking for them has never, ever , ever worked.

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                7 months ago

                we said “yo stop fucking ruling us nerds” and they went “lol ok, but only if you beat us in war” and then we did.

                I mean to some degree, you aren’t wrong about violence working effectively, that’s definitely accurate.

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                  7 months ago

                  It worked great in France too, and still is. Every time the fascists try to take rights away, the French people mutilate Paris again, and it works.

                  Also women’s suffrage, gay rights, civil rights movement (yes, it was under THREAT of violence, not nonviolence).

                  It’s simple: you cannot beg power to abdicate itself.

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                    7 months ago

                    though to be fair, i don’t believe war and violence are the same thing. War is an excuse to commit violence, violence is sometimes the result of attempting to gain rights.