In the past, laminated glass was usually installed in the windshield, with side and rear windows being tempered only.

The difference is that tempered glass is per-stressed so that when it cracks, it shatters into many tiny and dull pieces. Laminated is the same thing, but with layers of plastic sandwiched with layers of tempered glass. Laminated glass will still shatter, but will be held together by the plastic layers.

In an emergency, small improvised, or purpose built tools meant to shatter tempered glass will be useless if the glass is laminated.

  • dragontamer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    188
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    The problem wasn’t the glass.

    The problem was using wtf touchscreen controls to shift between drive and reverse. Mrs. Chao confused the two then died.

    Shitty UI kills another person. Tesla fucking up basic UI design is the real villain here.

    • HogsTooth@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      91
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      I still blame Jeep for thinking a rotating selector was a good idea for a gear shifter. RIP Anton Yelchin.

      • XeroxCool@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        37
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I thought his jeep issue was that P on the dial didn’t actually guarantee the parking pawl was engaged to stop it from rolling. Separate from the lack of positive engagement with the P position, more about the physical disconnect between the two. Unless that was just the non-offensive language version of “user didn’t turn the dial all the way and our polite warning chime was too polite”

      • dragontamer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        8 months ago

        At least you can still feel the rotating Jeep shitty gear selector.

        Touchscreen controls on a Tesla have no feel or feedback. It’s a touchscreen.

      • dragontamer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        35
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I’m more inclined to blame Tesla’s electronic locks and confusing manual override before blaming the windows though

        Quick, do you know which panel to remove to find the non-electronic manual override in a Tesla? Car is sinking fast and the electronics just shorted out from the lake.

        But sure, tons of bad design decisions here. It’s hard to blame any one of them as the singular cause. If Tesla had easier to use manual override doors instead of electronic locks, if the windows could be broken, if the screen wasn’t a confusing touchscreen mess, etc. Etc. Lots of factors and all are the cause.

        • AA5B@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          find the non-electronic manual override in a Tesla?

          a Tesla? There’s a legitimate point y’all are missing where they are different per model or over time

      • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        8 months ago

        Yeah, only on the newer ones tho. My buddy got I wanna say a 2022? And it doesn’t have that. He specifically said if it did, he wouldn’t have bought it.

    • arin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      Imagine if water spilled or leaked from the window onto the touchscreen, try using a wet smartphone… Could be touchscreen device malfunction or misclick causing the Tesla fatality

    • Diplomjodler@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      You seem to have very detailed information on how the accident happened. Care to share?