• horsey@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Here are two examples:

    South Carolina

    Alabama (also discusses other states, such as how Mississippi and Georgia formerly had flags with a confederate flag embedded in the design)

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      8 months ago

      Those are battle flags. That isn’t the confederate flag. At least looking at the photos those are just battle flags. Which are less appropriate than flying the flag for a government.

      My grandma had a battle flag but she never displayed it. It’s because it’s the battle flag her grandpa had in the civil war. Wish someone had the sense to donate it to a museum but I suspect it was disposed of.

      People often confuse the battle flag with the confederate flag. Battle flags were to identify units on the battlefield.

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        8 months ago

        Those are battle flags. That isn’t the confederate flag.

        colloquial - used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary

        It is the confederate flag. You know exactly what they meant. Doing an “um achktually” doesn’t rebut their point.

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        8 months ago

        Why would that matter and why would a state house be flying a confederate battle flag either?

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          It’s a historical tradition. They’ve done it for a very long time. It’s to honor their state citizens who died in the war.

          I think people don’t get, after the war it was about reconciliation.

          The battle flag grew to represent anti-authority. That’s why it became part of the image of the southern outlaw.

          I see no need to fly it but then again I live in Oregon. We had no ties to the confederacy. I find it an odd relic myself.

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            8 months ago

            Is that really what you believe? That they would fly the flag of their failed rebellious nation for reconciliation and not continued defiance? Wouldn’t showing full support for the US as a nation be more of a show of unity?

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              8 months ago

              Considering it’s documented in history. Yes.

              It was a show of unity to respect the dead confederate soldiers but push the leadership out. That’s what happened.

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                That’s funny you think things like that are “documented”. The South being pretty unhappy with the outcome of the war is “documented” too btw. So why would they still be flying it in 2015? Why honor vets killed in a treasonous rebellion 160 years ago and not say, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq or Afghanistan? How about a POW MIA flag?

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                    8 months ago

                    Because you apparently believe something different and asserted it to me. I didn’t understand the logic of what you said though so I was attempting to discuss it.