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I thought it was a British thing.

It’s hard to listen to one-dimensional, naive arguments - what is there to listen to? Oh, you think 60 years of US policy supporting Israel, and Israel deciding to assault Gazans after keeping them in an apartheid ghetto for years, is 100% Joe Biden’s fault and he could just go against 95% of the US political establishment and stop it any time. This reminds me of people who act like the president directly sets gas prices. This ‘centrist’ thing is getting old, too.

deeply dissatisfied with Biden.

I’m not clear on why you’re so ‘deeply dissatisfied’. Unfortunately, elections in the US have a lame-ass system where you don’t get to choose an ideal candidate. You’ve already said you’re voting for Biden. Good idea. In the meantime, trying to discourage other people from doing so isn’t going to help the country out much.

I thought Horseshoe was basically an observation that extremists on both ends like authoritarianism, and thus roughly agree with each other. I suppose that could lead to admiring Putin and the CCCP.

demise of the current political system

Isn’t that accelerationism?

No, I’m accusing people who constantly bash Biden of effectively getting Trump elected, whether it’s on purpose or not. I’m not sure which is worse - explicitly supporting Trump, disingenuously supporting Trump, or being too dense/apathetic to realize you’re helping Trump.

I certainly never ‘screamed’ about you being ‘stupid’, either. What a weird conversation this is.

okay, I should rephrase that. OP is either naive, clueless or disingenuous. It’s just a little odd when “I’m so leftist!” people repeat the exact same shit as conservative propagandists, isn’t it?

We know for a fact that there is propaganda on the internet produced by foreign and domestic influence organizations. I don’t think it’s mostly done by bots (some is) but rather people who are employed to do so.

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That’s how republicans try to redefine the Overton window - claim that conservative extremists are moderates and the majority.

My impression is that their only consistent ideology is to oppose the US, so they support absolutely anyone who opposes the US. Also, they’re lost in a reverie of 60 years ago and think the current Russian and Chinese governments are communist or something.

No reason to think OP is a bot - what does that even mean? OP is merely an idiot.

Okay, that’s great since I have never done that. What I have claimed is that people standing up to tell others to waste their vote are helping support a Trump victory, whether on purpose, from calculated apathy, or because they’re stupid and don’t realize it.

oh my! you really told me. Let’s get Danald tramp elected instead.

Again, talking massive shit about progressive politicians and never one word about Republicans. So curious.

only 22 states + Washington DC, compared to Trumps 28 states.

Republicans are generally convinced that empty land votes. It’s absurd enough that we have to live with the Senate where 800,000 people in Wyoming or North Dakota get the same voting power as 40 million in California.

Great! Time to repeat some more republican talking points and post negative articles about Biden.

Do you have any original thoughts or can you only communicate with stupid, easily discarded memes that someone else made?

Third parties don’t work in the US first past the post system. To support that, agitate for comprehensive, nationwide election reform. Otherwise, you’re getting the candidate you theorretically dislike more elected and are an idiot.

Anyway, just weird how I never hear anything from the ‘OMG I’m so leftist crowd’ about being concerned about Trump winning, and the Republican’s plans for the country. Never. Nothing. Just “JOR BIDEN SO BAD OHMERGERD” over and over. If you don’t comprehend you’re helping Trump, you are either naive, very stupid, or disingenuous.

Also, that’s very appropriate - Peter griffin is well known as an intellectual luminary.

That’s fine, you can dislike Biden all you want. Spending tons of effort to discourage people from voting for Biden has the same effect as supporting Trump, though, which is the entire point. So, great job helping Trump out.