Speaking at the end of the meeting, Macron warned: “There is a change in Russia’s stance. It is striving to take on further territory and it has its eyes not just on Ukraine but on many other countries as well, so Russia is presenting a greater danger.”

Among those present at the meeting were the German Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, the UK foreign secretary, Lord Cameron, the Polish president, Andrzej Duda, and the Dutch prime minister, Mark Rutte.

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    Refuses?
    A danish article I just read had no such language. But stated that there wasn’t agreement among allies yet, and Macron would not exclude the possibility.

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    Wow!! Downvoted for indicating Macron might not have used such strong language, and it may be poorly translated? What an asshole. 🤪

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      “would not exclude”?

      “refuses to rule out”?

      Is there a meaningful difference between these two phrases to you?

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          in English, and especially UK newspaper reporting, “refuse” is also used to indicate that it’s something unexpected. I’m not sure that we can do away with sensationalist headlines without also banning all british news sources.

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          Yeah I think you have a personal opinion on the matter that others don’t share.

          Aw angry downvotes. Someone’s sad they’re wrong :(

          Maybe read the room and figure out when you’re off base.

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      This is why top level politician travel with a suite of translator and don’t just speak a common language like English/French/German. There is a lot of nuances in the very specific wording like refuse to rule out or does not excude. However, without having the exact quote in french, and an experienced translator who get these nuance, it ends up lost in translation

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        You are right, but “refuse” indicates strong opposition, and according to the article I read in Danish, there were no indication of strong opposition, although there weren’t complete agreement either.