Paris votes to crack down on SUVs
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SUV drivers will be charged up to $20 per hour to park in the city.

Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu…::Parisians have voted to increase parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.

  • idealotus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    653·
    9 months ago

    I think restrictions like these should also include SUV EVs. Safety is the bigger priority than incentivizing a few more EV sales and in the future, there may only be EVs anyway.

    • spookex@lemmy.worldEnglish
      398·
      9 months ago

      Honestly, they should just ban all SUVs from entering altogether.

      Not because of the environment or safety, just because I hate that everything is an SUV these days and they are boring af

      • WhiteHawk@lemmy.worldEnglish
        75·
        9 months ago

        That would mean lots of people would have to buy a new car, which is much worse for the environment than to keep driving an SUV

        • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          9 months ago

          Or people could just take the train or walk.

          Remember, we’re talking about Paris, not a third world country in North America.

            • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              9 months ago

              You said “have to”. They don’t have to. You’re now talking about whether they “want to” - which is now a question of whether they want to keep money in their wallet.

              • WhiteHawk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                Don’t be pedantic. I meant that they have to buy a new car if they want to keep driving, which most of them probably will, since they wouldn’t be driving in the first place if there was a better alternative

                • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  I said “want to”, and I meant “want to”. I don’t consider it pedantry - Everyone has a choice.

                  • People looking to buy their first car (or replace a junker) can either get an SUV, or a sedan. This legislation tips their decision.
                  • People who own a car (because they live in an area that needs it) that happens to be an SUV, and are then planning to go into Paris, can choose to instead drive to a local train station, and make the rest of their trip using local means.
                  • People who live inside of Paris can choose not to buy a car at all; or just stop using the SUV they bought earlier after deciding it was a bad fit for their area.

                  There’s perhaps a fringe case of people that can afford two cars, own one SUV, and still insist on driving into the city - whether that means stomaching the fee, or buying a second car. That is very much a “want”, one that increasingly dense cities cannot easily cater to. I’d even say there’s not a huge demographic of people who could decide to buy a second car purely for this situation.

      • abhibeckert@lemmy.worldEnglish
        720·
        9 months ago

        Honestly, they should just ban all SUVs from entering altogether.

        That’s not going to convince me to sell my SUV. It’d just cause me to buy a second car.

    • skydivekingair@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1410·
      9 months ago

      Well they also exempt taxis and city residents so it’s not about safety or the environment it’s about the money.

        • skydivekingair@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          No good point, I appreciate discussions!

          I think they know if it didn’t exempt city residents there would be enough backlash from eligible voters it wouldn’t pass. Seeing as it’s a fine and not a ban it can have secondary effects of improving safety and the environment but primarily it will raise money.

    • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
      3·
      9 months ago

      I’d love it if there were a wide range of offerings for EVs that aren’t crossovers/SUVs. Once you take them off the list, it’s slim pickings. Doubly so if you want range over 200mi, and doubly so again if you refuse to buy a Tesla.

      “You can try the Mustang Mach-E, that doesn’t have much SUV in it.”